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This is my gg grandfather. He married Ann Freeme in 1851. Had 3 children in 1852, 1853 & 1854, 2 boys survived, but by 1861 his wife was living alone and his oldest son, WF Addey (my g grandfather ) was at boarding school. I have a letter from a distant relative written in the 1940's, when my father my father was doing family research, to say that he was told there was a serious family disagreement, William Addey went to Australia and was never heard of again. It is possible that he was born in Northern Ireland. Does anyone have any information?

Hello Rosemary, welcome to the boards.

Can you tell us when William was born? Where was the family in 1861?

ADDED - to give an idea of location

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1851
Addey William St Geo Han Sq 1 39
Freeme Ann St Geo Han Sq 1 39

Forgot to ask, what was his occupation?

Marriage for ref

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
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Addey William St Geo Han Sq 1 39
Freeme Ann St Geo Han Sq 1 39

Andy

Further info on the marriage I posted earlier:

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record

Groom's First names: William
Groom's surname: Addey
Groom's parish:
Groom's Age: Full
Marriage year: 1851 Marriage month: Sep Marriage day: 22
Parish: St George, Hanover Square
County: Middlesex
Bride's First names: Ann
Bride's surname: Freeme
Bride's parish:
Bride's Age: Full
Record source: Westminster Marriages- Transcripts
Data provider: Westminster Archives

Neither previously married, both give address as Chesterfield Street.

William was a butler. His father William was a farrier.

Ann's father Isaac was a stone quarrier.

Witnesses: John Henry Poole and Mary Addey.

Just trying to build up a picture of William in absence of information provided:

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

First names: William Freeme
Surname: Addey
Baptism year: 1852
Baptism month: Aug
Baptism day: 29
Parish: All Saints, Ennismore Gardens, Knightsbridge
County: Middlesex
Page: 39
Birth year: 1852
Birth month: Jun
Birth day: 29
Father's First names: William
Mother's First names: Ann
Record source: Westminster Baptisms- Transcripts
Data provider: Westminster Archives

Family living 19 Montpelier Street. William's occupation given as "tailor at the Marylebone police court".

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record

First names: John Henry
Surname: Addey
Baptism year: 1858
Baptism month: Apr
Baptism day: 24
Parish: All Saints, Ennismore Gardens, Knightsbridge
County: Middlesex
Page: 101
Birth year: 1858
Birth month: Apr
Birth day: 12
Father's First names: William
Mother's First names: Anne
Record source: Westminster Baptisms- Transcripts
Data provider: Westminster Archives

(This was a private baptism)

Family living 26 Raphael Street. William's occupation now "in the Detective Police"
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ADDED: Age out but quite likely his burial

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: John Henry Addey
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1858
Burial Date: 10 Jul 1858
Age: 12 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brompton Holy Trinity
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Register

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Robert Edward Addey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1854 - born 5 March 1854
Father's Name: William Addey
Mother's Name: Ann Addey
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 46 Paddington Street.

William a gaoler at Marylebone police court (makes more sense than a tailor, wonder if they misheard him at WF's baptism? I had thought originally he may have been making stylish police uniforms or fetching little convict outfits.)

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Mary Florence Addey
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1855, born 10 June 1855
Father's Name: William Addey
Mother's Name: Ann Addey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 11 Anderson Street. William a gaoler at Marylebone.

ADDED: Died Oct ¼ 1855

So still not finding William's age and birthplace but at least have found a fourth child that Rosemary didn't have.

So is this Ann in 1861?

ADDEY, Ann Lodger Married F 34 1827 Late Servant Seend, Wiltshire,

Piece: 45 Folio: 101 Page: 1
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Municipal Borough: Westminster

Address: 2, Hertford Street, St George Hanover Square, Westminster County: London

Quite likely that it is her. Son Robert Edward is lodging in Seend with 81 year old Ann Marsh, just a few doors away from grandparents Isaac and Sarah.

For ref Ann and William 1881

Anne Addey 55
Wm.F. Addey 28
Anna M. Spinks 25
Arthur O. Evans 22
Walter B. Yates 23


Andy

Thank you. I had found out quite a bit about the children and their whereabouts but didn't know about John Henry Addey who died at 12 months. However I didn't know the exact wedding date or details of William's occupation, his parent's names and father's occupation. So thanks for that. I may be able to trace more and fit it in with other distant ancestors (unfortunately there is some variation in the surname and only William appears to have the name with an 'e'.)

Looks like him,


All 1851 England Census Results
1851 England Census about William Addy
Name: William Addy
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Woodmansterne
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: BUTLER

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Croydon
Sub-registration District: Mitcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 5
Piece: 1602
Folio: 51
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Walch 42
Margaret Walch 30
John Walch 1 Mo
Samuel Blogg 25
Elizabeth Blogg 21
Rhoda Barber 23
William Addy 23. >>>>> BUTLER!!!
William Maidman 16

I would be quite interested who this little ladies parents could be??


Historical Records
1861 England Census about Rosa Addy
Name: Rosa Addy
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Kerightbridge, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Theydon Bois
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Epping
Sub-registration District: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 44
Piece: 1063
Folio: 156
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Duffield 31
Emma Duffield 28
Emma Duffield 4
Mary Ann Duffield 3
Hannah Duffield 1
Lucy Adderson 18
Rosa Addy 9



Historical Records
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Rosina Addy
Name: Rosina Addy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1851
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1
Page: 327



She could be no relation, it was just that her birthplace is the same as William Freeme Addey.

Thank you Best Man's daughter. I have not found any connection to your William Addy. If anything turns up I will let you know.

On Williams marriage certificate to Ann Freeme he states his occupation as a Butler..... I would consider the 1851 census that I posted maybe him seeing as the occupation is the same.

Yes. I see what you mean. I'll see if I can find out more. There is a William Addey listed in the St Pancras area later in the 1800's but by then Ann was described as a Widow. If Rosa was his child it would explain a serious family disagreement!

Dear Rosemary, my name is Geoff Goodwin from Walcha NSW Australia, A few years ago while metal detecting I found a small brass disc, its about the size of a pocket watch, It has an inscription on it which reads William Addey's Sundial Maitland, I believe and am almost 100% certain this belonged to your relative William Addey, he was transported to Australia in 1837 aboard the ship The Mangles and assigned to C&F Wilson at Tocal near Maitland NSW, I have copies of his transportation details and ticket of freedom certificate. He had tattoos on his left and right arms WAMA & JATA, Please reply regards Geoff.

Can't be the same William Addey geof as he was still in the UK on the census after 1837

He married in 1851 and had chidren in the 1850,s