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I know where Ellen Christina Ragland is buried

Same family in 1880
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Affiliate Film Number: T9-0867
GS Film number: 1254867
Digital Folder Number: 004242173
Image Number: 00583

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I'm really grateful to you all, my mother who was brought up by her maternal grandparents (Maurice Henderson, her grandad) following her mother's death at just 22 of meningitis when mum was just 3, remembered her aunt May (although really she was her great aunt). But, although I've managed to fill in a lot of the family history, never had got anywhere with May (Mary Frances) prior to her marriage.

My mother will be thrilled, so really thankful for all this help!

Patchem hit:
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The col headers are on image 139
The non-obvious ones (last 4) are she belongs to Ireland, she intends to habituate the United States, she didn't die on the voyage, and she travelled steerage.

You can look up the United States Census, 1870 via:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
It has an image link.
She arrived too late for the NY census (1/6/1865).

Maybe she was going to join uncle/grandfather after all. I think this is her grandfather, who disappeared after the 1861 census - he was a shipwright or ships carpenter on the 1851/61 census:

Edmund Newell
Age in 1870: 77
Birth Year: abt 1793
Birthplace: England
Home in 1870: New York Ward 4 District 4, New York, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: New York City
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
James Newell 37
Elisa Newell 38
William Newell 18
Mary Jane Newell 17
Ellen Newell 12
Edmund Newell 77 <<<ships carpenter
Samuel Casey 26
Ralph Lightfoot 26

It's the only one looking even remotely likely Pat - she must have been very brave going on her own, I can't see any other Newells on that voyage.

Claims Irish, but might just be an assumption:

Sarah Newell
Arrival Date: 18 Aug 1865
Birth Date: abt 1849
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Place of Origin: Ireland
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Scotland
Search Ship Database: Search the Scotland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Yes, or Newell, that looks like her thanks Gins. I'm not sure about the bank record stating she had been in US for 9 years - she was born in 1849 (reg Cockermouth), so she must have been only about 15 when she emigrated. I've just checked the ancestry passenger lists again for around 1864, but not finding her.

Was her birth name Newall?



1870 United States Federal Census


Name:Sarah Newall

Age in 1870:21

Birth Year:abt 1849

Birthplace:England

Home in 1870:
New York Ward 12 District 10, New York, New York

Race:White

Gender:Female

Post Office:New York City

Household Members:


S H Combs 58
Saml Combs 26
Richd Combs 20
Lizzie Combs 20
Saml Pitt 27
S J Underhill 8
Harriet Underhill 6
Sarah Newall 21 <<<<<<<<<<Domestic

Flip

I edited as I had put the place to the wrong name!

Well, Gins I hadn't seen that, but think it seals her as the right one. Her mother Eleanor was married to William Fletcher on the 1871 census! Thanks!

Hi Flip

Have you seen this record?



Freedman's Bank Records, 1865-1871


Name:Sarah Ragland B England, 9 years in the USA

Birth Year:1852

Age:23

Account Date:24 Apr 1873

Spouse's Name:Richard W [Ragland]

Father's Name:Wm Fletcher <<Workington, England

Mother's Name:Ellen [Ragland] <<It doesn't say Ragland on the record, just her first name!

Birth Country:England

Thanks Maureen, that would confirm the maiden name - from the child's christening. That's great.

http://www.italiangen.org/records-search/grooms.php

And they've changed the "search" a lot!

Last Name Given Name Month/Day Year CtfNum County
Raglard Richard Aug 29 1872 1567 Kings R246 32636

Matches to Sarah NEWELL.

PS-to Malcolm........Sackett!!! You've gone all Sask.
;-) <3

Thanks mgnv, it certainly looks likely Christina's christening is connected (thanks Christina) - and Sarah Newell seems to disappear after the 1861 census (along with brother John). I see her mother Eleanor married, and had Isaac with her in 1871.

Until yesterday, I'd never got anywhere with Mary F's ancestry and didn't know she had a sister - had her from her marriage to burial (in Lindale churchyard), probate etc but apart from the 1891 census had found nothing else. Strange though, none of them are showing up on any passenger lists (well not on ancestry), nothing for Sarah going to US, nor anything for them returning between 1884 and 1888.

Many thanks for all the help!

1861 England Census Transcription
Street:GRIFFIN STREET
County:Cumberland
Parish:WORKINGTON
Town:WORKINGTON
Ecclesiastical District:ST MICHAELS
Registration District:COCKERMOUTH
Registration Sub-District 3 Workington
Enumeration District:17
Archive Reference:RG09 Piece Number:3939 Folio:33 Page:4

EDWARD NEWELL 1794 67 HENSINGHAM HEAD M Shipwright
ELEANOR NEWELL 1827 34 WORKINGTON DAUGHTER U House Keeper
SARAH NEWELL 1849 12 WORKINGTON GRANDDAUGHTER Scholar
JOHN NEWELL 1852 9 WORKINGTON GRANDSON Scholar
ISAAC NEWELL 1856 5 WORKINGTON GRANDSON Scholar


Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
Middleton John Ulverston 8e 1146
Ragland Sarah Ulverston 8e 1146

Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
Brockbank John Henry Ulverston 8e 1281
Dixon Margaret Ann Ulverston 8e 1281
Fell John Hall Ulverston 8e 1281
RAGLAND Ellen Christina Ulverston 8e 1281


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HENDERSON James RAGLAN Mary Frances Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/24/101

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PARR John Henry FELL Ellen Christina Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/29/129
PARR John Henry RAGLAND Ellen Christina Lancaster Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston LANC/29/129



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HENDERSON James Lancaster Preston RAGLAN LAN/93/35

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARR Ellen Amelia Mary Lancaster Preston FELL LAN/112/79
PARR Ellen Amelia Mary Lancaster Preston RAGLAND LAN/112/79

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
PARR Amelia 1 Lancaster Preston LAN/90/98

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARR Gladys May Lancaster Preston FELL LAN/116/64
PARR Gladys May Lancaster Preston RAGLAND LAN/116/64


The only RDs (partly) trancribed at http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/ are Millom and Barrow-in-Furness.
Barrow now holds some regos for the old Ulverston RD, but not for Cartmel subdistrict.
Also, http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ has some Lancs-in-Furness regos transcribed, but none recently enough for your Raglands in Cartmel.



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Affiliate Film Number: T9-0842
GS Film number: 1254842
Digital Folder Number: 004242123
Image Number: 00746

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[addy=99 Saskett St, Brooklyn]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VT8C-TWY [with image link]
[Richard is a seaman here - same addy as 1880]

EDIT As Maureen later posts - it's Sackett St. Sorry for mistranscription.

Well it's possible Christina, but he must have died before the 1880 census if he's their child, and why no christenings for the 2 children born either side of him?

Sorry, but I'm going to have to sign out for tonight, eyes are drooping! Will check back in the morning

There is a Sarah Newell of the right age born in Workington....

1851 England Census about Sarah Newell
Name: Sarah Newell
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Workington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration District: Cockermouth
Sub-registration District: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 62
Piece: 2435
Folio: 232
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Newell 58
Eleanor Newell 25
Sarah Newell 2

Baptism for older child? Gives her maiden name as Newell.


Richard W. Raglan in entry for Richard Raglan, "New York, Births and Christenings, 1640-1962"
Name: Richard Raglan
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1877
Birthplace: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard W. Raglan
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarrah Newell
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C71519-6
System Origin: New_York-ODM
GS Film number: 1324363
Reference ID:

A second marriage for Ellen

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
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FELL Ellen Christina Lancaster 8e 1454
PARR John Henry Lancaster 8e 1454


1911


John Henry Parr 30
Ellen Christina Parr 37
Sarah Jane Fell 11
Robert Henry Fell 5
Gladys May Parr 1


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