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Hello Daniel, there is no additional information on the census image other than onn the transcription that was posted on page 1.

As Christina explained above, small rural communities usually didn't have addresses as we do now.

Is it Possible to see where John Barnard was living in South Hanningfield?

The area you are talking about, Daniel, appears to be made up mainly of farmer's cottages.

These cottages wouldn't have been numbered. Any letter being sent to the occupants would just have gone to the local post office.

So the census enumerator has distinguished between each cottage by a thick line underneath each household.

The Hawk Inn being the only one named as it was the only building in the road that had a name or number.

Hope that makes it less confusing for you :-)

Next door but one? Does it say the address? And what about William smith what address is he at? When I looked at the census it just says the Hawk,Rettendon.

1851
MANN, Edward Head Married M 45 1806 Innkeeper Farmer 20 Acres Employing One Man
Gt Burstead, Essex
MANN, Sarah Wife Married F 43 1808 Inn Keepers Wife
Gt Burstead, Essex
MANN, Edward Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Rettendon, Essex
MANN, Henry Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Rettendon, Essex
MANN, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Rettendon, Essex
TIBBALL, Susanna Visitor Married F 50 1801 Nurse
Widford, Essex
LILLY, Sophia Servant Unmarried F 24 1827 House Servant
Gt Baddow, Essex
LUCKING, William Servant Unmarried M 23 1828 Ostler
Gt Waltham, Essex
SMITH, James Lodger Unmarried M 30 1821 Poulterer
Rettendon, Essex
HAWKES, George Lodger Unmarried M 40 1811 Ag Labr
Dunmow, Essex
RAVEN, Edward Lodger Unmarried M 30 1821 Ag Lab
East Mersey, Essex
PORTWAY, George Lodger Unmarried M 19 1832 Ag Lab
Gt Waltham, Essex
Piece: 1775
Folio: 38
Page: 4
Registration District: Chelmsford
Civil Parish: Rettendon
Municipal Borough:
Address: Hawk Inn, Rettendon
County: Essex

(as above for the Inn, also posted earlier)

Chris :)

(John Kendall is next door but one, and William Smith 2 images on)

Can any one tell me about the census and how comes there are 3 different ones for one house?

1851 census for Hawk Inn,Rettendon/Battlesbridge. How comes there are so many different ones? I've seen one with the Mann Family and my great,great Grandad James Smith as a lodger, I've seen another one for the 1851 with the rest of James Smiths Family i.e William & Elizabeth and their sons and daughters living there, and now aparently The Kendall family was living there in 1851 different census! I am finding this very confusing...

Sorry if I make things confusing! I can trace Elizabeth Kendall from 1811 she married William Smith, 1841 she was living at Wick House,Rettendon age 40,1851 living at Hawk Inn Rettendon age 56,1861 Living at Hoe lane age 60,1871 Living by Chelmsford road age 76. I find it hard as her age and the spelling of her surname seem to change! Just wanted to find out where she was born and who her parents where.

Thanks for all your help and patients!

What makes you think they are out of area Daniel, have a look back at Census records posted earlier.

You need Seax for Parish Records.

Chris :)

Sorry yes my mistake it was meant to be 1795. They was Married 19/11/1811 - All Saints, Rettendon. If they are from out of the Rettendon area and move into the area is there any way of tracing where they have come from?

1841
KENDLE, John M 25 1816 Essex (Butcher)
KENDLE, Mary F 20 1821 Essex
Piece: 326
Book/Folio: 10
Page: 14
Registration District: Chelmsford
Civil Parish: Rettendon
Municipal Borough:
Address: Wick House, Rettendon
County: Essex


Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------
KENDAL John Chelmsford 12 55
Wright Mary Ann Chelmsford 12 55

http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeR/essexr09b.html

(could perhaps relate, also the Ann Kendall)


1841
SAVILL, William M 65 1776 Essex (Grocer)
SAVILL, Mary F 55 1786 Essex
SAVILL, William M 28 1813 Essex
Piece: 326
Book/Folio: 24
Page: 16
Registration District: Chelmsford
Civil Parish: Rettendon
Municipal Borough:
Address: Brook House, Rettendon
County: Essex

(from google, above Marriage 1806 Mary Kendal)

Chris :)

(interesting just looking round Rettendon 1841)

Are you sure she was born 1895?
If so, she can´t be wife of William Smith b 1788.
Do you mean 1795?

She is my great,great,great grandmother My grandad Harry Smith,great grandad was James Smith, My great,great Grandad was William Smith and it's his wife! I've been told there might be a Royol connection in the family somewhere and told it might be along this line?!
thanks

Sorry Daniel, don't understand your post. Who is Elizabeth Kendall born 1895?

I'm stuck on finding anything more about Elizabeth Kendall I think Born 1895 To my Great,Great,Great Grandad William Smith born 1788 Rettendon Essex. Can anyone help? Not been able to find anyhting on her!

http://pubshistory.com/EssexPubs/BattlesBridge/hawk.shtml

http://www.rettendonandbattlesbridge.org.uk/

http://www.esfh.org.uk/

(although needs checking!)

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/

(quite a bit on above, in general)

(above might be able to help, have a look round on google, any library near to)


Not sure there is much online Parish Records, you need the Seax website, to look up Baptisms etc.

Chris :)

edits (have you checked 'Search All Members Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search') in fact I think LadyKira helps out here!.

Hello, So I started off by trying to find out information on my great Grandad James Smith I am now trying to find out more information on my great,great Grandad William Smith born 1788 Rettendon,Essex. Whats the chance of going back much futher than this? Is it possible to Look up where Wick House,Rettendon might have been?

Daniel, There's only the one James Smith born around 1820 from Rettendon. The one in the 1871 census living as a lodger is your one.

Baby son, Harry, is living with his mother, Susan Barnard, in 1871. They are both living with Susan's parents, John and Lucy Barnard.

Harry is under the name of Harry S. Barnard.

He was baptised in Rettendon on 21/8/1870 as Harry Smith Barnard - mother Susan. No mention of his father.

? Yes He is my great Grandad! Sorry if I confused things! My dad is Reg Smith, his dad is Harry Smith, His dad James Smith!

Daniel - are you sure he is your grandad and not your great grandad? For him to be your father's father i.e. your grandad, Florence would have to be dead, he would have to have remarried to Constance and would be 71 at the time of Reginald's birth!

I personally would get the marriage certificate of Harry and Constance.....

Jude