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Hannah Carpenter 1831-1888 (Yorkshire-possibly)

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Eleanor

Eleanor Report 3 Nov 2013 08:42

Hello, I'm here on behalf of my grandad who would like to find out a bit more about his ancestors. So far, with documents, photos(!!) and bits of family memories (not all reliable!) we have put quite a bit of his tree together, however, we have become a bit stuck with Hannah Carpenter (thats her married name) who passed away in 1988 (on Christmas day).

We are lucky that he has as many doctuments as he has, but things such as her sons (William) birth and his wife (Sarah Eastwood) have alluded us, and we are stuck. Census have confused us and we darent purchase any records incase they are incorrect. We do have the birth certificate for one of their children (Annie Maria) but it sheds no light as to their ages etc.

I was hoping for some help in tracing any information on Hannah Carpenter, as maybe then we can go back a little further, or use that information to find Williams documents.

I don't know if I can post photos, but there are pictures of documents and photos in my keepsake and on my tree if anyone wants to have a gander.

Thank you for any help, it is all appreciated.

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 3 Nov 2013 08:47

I should add, Annie Maria was born in Rotherham Yorks, but her children were born in Blackwell and South Normanton in Derbys and this has added to our difficulty in finding the ancestors as they moved around?

Gee

Gee Report 3 Nov 2013 09:01

Hi


Do you have any birth years and places for the above family?

Flip

Flip Report 3 Nov 2013 09:11

I'm guessing this is Annie Maria?

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
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Carpenter Annie Maria Rotherham 9c 670

Flip

Flip Report 3 Nov 2013 09:13

Annie Maria Carpenter
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: William Carpenter
Mother: Sarah Carpenter
Gender: Female
Where born: Rawmarsh, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Rawmarsh
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 34 Dilles Buildings
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Rotherham
Sub-registration District: Kimberworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4678
Folio: 70
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
William Carpenter 29
Sarah Carpenter 32
Thomas Carpenter 10
Annie Carpenter 8
David Carpenter 6
Annie Maria Carpenter 4
Walter Carpenter

Parents & 3 oldest children born Oldbury, staffs.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:13

What was Hannah's maiden name?

And her husband's forename?

Where is she reputed to have died?

Gee

Gee Report 3 Nov 2013 09:16

I thought Annie Maria' mother died in 1988 :-S

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 3 Nov 2013 09:17

William was born in a rather unexpected place!

CARPENTER, William Head Married M 29 1852 Genl Labr
Oldbury, Staffordshire
CARPENTER, Sarah Wife Married F 32 1849
Oldbury, Staffordshire
CARPENTER, Thomas Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Oldbury, Staffordshire
CARPENTER, Annie Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Oldbury, Staffordshire
CARPENTER, David Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Rotherham, Yorkshire
CARPENTER, Annie Maria Daughter Single F 4 1877
Rawmarsh, Yorkshire
CARPENTER, Walter Son Single M 0 1881
Rawmarsh, Yorkshire

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 3 Nov 2013 09:18

It's Annie Maria's grandmother who died in 1888!

Having said that, I can't see a death for her

Gee

Gee Report 3 Nov 2013 09:20

It must be a typo as the OP says 1988!

:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:22

I can't see a marriage between William Carpenter and Sarah Eastwood.....

Have you looked at freebmd?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:23

Hannah's dates are in the title!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:26

Dates are wrong.......if this is the woman

1861 census

Person: CARPENTER, William Address: Brades Road, Oldbury

CARPENTER, Thomas Head Married M 30 1831 Labourer In Iron Work
Rowley, Staffordshire VIEW
CARPENTER, Hannah Wife Married F 38 1823 Labourer Wife
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
CARPENTER, William Son Unmarried M 9 1852 Scholar
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
CARPENTER, Edward Son M 2 1859 Scholar
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
CARPENTER, Hannah Daughter F 0 (9M) 1861
Oldbury, Worcestershire

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 3 Nov 2013 09:26

It was a typo, sorry for my absence my mother turned up for a quick coffee.

I have no details at all for Hanna, other than the card thing from her funeral that states her date of death being 25/12/1888

I always typo the year, not used to typing about the 1800's!

There is a Harold Carpenter but I thought he was Hannah's son?? I'm confused now, I'll flick through documents again and see if I can find anything of help :)

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 3 Nov 2013 09:26

This is the only marriage to a Sarah in the area:

Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
Carpenter William Dudley 6c 25
Hughes Sarah Dudley 6c 25
MASON Joseph Dudley 6c 25
MATTHEWS Hannah Dudley 6c 25

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:27

Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
Beech David Dudley 18 306
Carpenter Thomas Dudley 18 306
Downing Hannah Dudley 18 306
Hampton Henry Dudley 18 306
Homer Sarah Whitehouse Dudley 18 306
Kendrick Elizabeth Dudley 18 306
Rubbra Henry Dudley 18 306
TINSLEY SARAH ANN DUDLEY 18 306

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:31

1851 census

Person: CARPENTER, Hannah Address: Rounds Green

HIPKISS, David Head Married M 25 1826 Master Blacksmith No Man
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
HIPKISS, Caroline Wife Married F 27 1824
Brades, Staffordshire VIEW
HIPKISS, Joseph Son M 2 1849
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
HIPKISS, Mary Daughter F 0 (9 MOS) 1851
Oldbury, Worcestershire VIEW
CARPENTER, Thomas Lodger Married M 22 1829 Coal Miner
Bayton, Worcestershire VIEW
CARPENTER, Hannah Lodger Married F 27 1824
Rowley, Staffordshire

Eleanor

Eleanor Report 3 Nov 2013 09:32

It was SArah Hughes Sorry, The other side married the Sarah Eastwood! (SOrry, so confusing with all the sarahs!)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:33

Suggestion ONLY.............based on the POSSIBLE marriage

You need certs for verification

1841 census


Person: DOWNING, Hannah Address: Golden Hill, Wolstanton, Oldcott

DOWNING, William M 60 1781 Staffordshire VIEW
DOWNING, William M 25 1816 Staffordshire VIEW
DOWNING, Bengamin M 30 1811 Staffordshire VIEW
DOWNING, Thomas M 20 1821 Staffordshire VIEW
DOWNING, Hannah F 18 1823 Staffordshire VIEW
DOWNING, Pamela F 13 1828 Staffordshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2013 09:35

Please remember to check your info before you hit the 'submit' button..........it only takes a moment....and can save a lot of time, and confusion.

Do you know how to look for info using freebmd?