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lost Arthur Smith Palmer, help please

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 12:56

I believe the national archives have some records of merchant seamen

Google for website

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 18 Nov 2013 00:53

Is there any way i can find out what ship he did serve on , as i have never traced a mariner before ,
and thank you again for all you are doing to help me xx

:-D

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:44

Will do a name correction on Ancestry for 1911 census as they are shown as VALMER but Arthur George signed the form

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:43

The man who died in 1919 was aged 20

PALMER, ARTHUR STANLEY

Rank: Signalman
Service No: J/35450
Date of Death: 16/12/1919
Age:20
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy

H.M.S. "Tenedos."
Panel Reference 32.
Memorial
CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Charles and Agnes Palmer, of 24, Princes Rd., West Ealing, London.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:39

He was a Merchant Mariner......not a Royal Navy serviceman

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:38

1871, as mentioned by Glitterbaby

1871 census

Person: PALMER, Arthur Address: Mason's Pl, St Luke Middlesex

PALMER, James S Head M 33 1838 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Eliza Wife F 33 1838 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, James C Son M 10 1861 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Henry Son M 8 1863 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Francis Son M 7 1864 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Arthur Son M 4 1867 Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Sidney E Son M 0 1871 Middlesex

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 18 Nov 2013 00:31

arther smith palmer was a mariner and what i found was he was on hms tenedos and in 1919 drowned ,,,, but when i looked deeper the middle name came up as stanley ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:31

Name: Arthur Smith Palmer
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1866
Father's Name: James Smith Palmer
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Palmer
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Barnabas
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:30

1881 census

Person: PALMER, Arthur S Address: 451, Southwark Pk Rd, Bermondsey

PALMER, James S Head Married M 43 1838 Printers Compositor
Paddington, Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1838
St Johns Wood, Surrey VIEW
PALMER, Francis Son Single M 16 1865 Carpenters Apprentice
St Lukes, Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Arthur S Son Single M 14 1867 Photographist
St Lukes, Middlesex VIEW
PALMER, Sidney E Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
St Lukes, Middlesex

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 18 Nov 2013 00:28

anything before there marrage would be great thank you ,,,
think i have spent to long not doing research and need to get back into it more you are both being so helpful i cant thank you enough xxxx

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:28

He is on electoral register until 1908 in Bermondsey

Did they go to America ? There is a US draft card for WW1 in that name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:26

He was obviously at sea in 1911.............he was a Mariner

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:25

1871 possible

Class: RG10; Piece: 398; Folio: 28; Page: 56; GSU roll: 824624

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 18 Nov 2013 00:25

He was born in 1866, REGGIE that was my mistake in typing it ,,, i am sorry about that,,,, but can you find him in the 1911 census?

when i looked him up in the sevice he came up as being on tenedos and his middle name as stanley
so i am confused
and thank you for your helping me xxx
:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:25

Marriages Dec 1859 (>99%)
Brittan Elizabeth Wandsworth 1d 667
Evans John Wandsworth 1d 667
Palmer James Smith Wandsworth 1d 667 S
Wheeler Catherine Wandsworth 1d 667




Deaths Jun 1883 (>99%)
PALMER James Smith 45 St. Olave 1d 167

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:24

There is a marriage in 1860 between james Smith Palmer and Elizabeth Brittain

His occupation is carpenter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:21

So now that we agree about his birth year.......what do you want to know?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Nov 2013 00:21

So do you want info before or after the marriage ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Nov 2013 00:20

1911 census

Person: PALMER, Ada Address: 14 Bolina Road South Bermondsey

PALMER, Ada Wife Married F 38 1873 London VIEW
PALMER, Arthur George Son Single M 16 1895 Cyclist Messenger London VIEW
PALMER, Albert John Son M 5 1906 London VIEW
PALMER, Edith Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1901 School London VIEW

DawnWilson

DawnWilson Report 18 Nov 2013 00:20

Glitter baby thank you for pointing out my mistake i should have put his birth at 1866,, not 1833