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Hi Guys, think I'm having a senile moment and cant seem to trace Agnes Watson born Glasgow 1870 to Alexander Watson and Janet ? I think its Lee but cant find a marriage for Alexander Watson and Janet ? Their daughter Agnes Watson married a William McCamley or McCamlie in 1888 Glasgow and had a son David born 1888 but I cant seem to find him?? My main concern is Agnes Watsons parents Alexander and Janet? There doesn't appear to be a birth for Agnes Watson which makes me wonder if she was either illegitimate or born elsewhere?? Any ideas? :-S

Agnes Watsons marriage details in 1888 and death in 1916 are hard to make out the name for mother other than its Janet.

This one?

1871 census


Person: WATSON, Agnes Address: 15, Rumford Street, Calton

WATSON, Alexander Head Married M 35 1836 Printer Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Jane Wife Married F 34 1837 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Charlotte Daughter F 6 1865 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, John Son M 5 1866 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Agnes Daughter F 1 1870 Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEA, Margaret Boarder Unmarried F 27 1844 Power Loom Weaver Rutherglen, Lanarkshi

1851 census

Person: LEE, Jean Address: 3, Hamilton Road, Rutherglen

LEE, Samuel Head Married M 55 1796 Hand Loom Weaver
Ireland
N/A
LEE, Samuel Wife Married F 52 1799 House Keeper
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, Agnes Daughter Unmarried F 30 1821 Hand Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, Rosanna Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826 Hand Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831 Power Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, James Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Labourer
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, Jean Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Power Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
LEE, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WILSON, Charlote Grand Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
PATERSON, James Lodger Unmarried M 21 1830 Hand Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
MOFFATT Visitor Widow F 43 1808 Power Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire

Be flexible in your thinking about the mother's first name.......Jean, Jane, Janet and Jennie/Jenny were all interchangeable in Scotland.

1861 census

Person: WATSON, Alexander Address: King Street, Rutherglen

GRAHAM, Agnes Head Widow F 60 1801 Works With A Gardener
Clyde Iron Works, Lanarkshire
N/A
GRAHAM, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 30 1831 Mill Piecer
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Alexander Son Unmarried M 25 1836 Calico Printer
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire

1851 census

Person: GRAHAM, Agnes Address: 52, King Street, Rutherglen

GRAHAM, Agnes Head Widow F 50 1801 Out Worker Ag Lab
Barony, Lanarkshire
N/A
GRAHAM, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Mill Worker Cott
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, John Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Labourer
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
MCCORMICK, Alen Son M 15 1836 Coal Miner
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire

Do you have info about whether the son lived - and married...........have you considered that he died in infancy?

1891 census


Person: MCCAMLIE, Agnes Address: Dale Street, Barony

MCCAMLIE, William Head Married M 24 1867 Boot Bench Man
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MCCAMLIE, Agnes Wife Married F 21 1870 Steam Loom Weaver
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
MCCAMLIE, Jane Daughter F 0 (UNDER 1 MO) 1891
Glasgow,

The 1871 census posted at 10;06 sounds promising, the only thing throwing me is the occupation of Alexander I have him down on daughters marriage cert as "machine factory labourer" but that doesn't mean anything does it?? I will look for the births of the other children listed, and try finding a marriage date for Alexander and Janet.. Thanks :-D

Reggie, the son David 1888-1962 married a Susanna Duffy.. So was definitely around. ;-)

Agnes's marriage cert will give you her mother's name.

The odds are that David was born a Watson................based on the dates you quote

Where was he reputed to have been born?

What was the address on Agnes' marriage cert?

Who were the witnesses?

1881 census

Person: WATSON, Agnes Address: 530, Baltic Street, Barony

WATSON, Alexander Head Married M 43 1838 Block Printer
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Jane Wife Married F 42 1839
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Charlotte Daughter F 16 1865 Power Loom Weaver
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, John Son M 15 1866 Inger
Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Agnes Daughter F 11 1870 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Jane Daughter F 9 1872 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
WATSON, Jessie Daughter F 7 1874
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
N/A
Piece: 6441 Folio: 34 Page: 13 Registration District: Bridgeton Civil Parish: Barony Municipal Borough:

There is this birth on familysearch:

Name: Samuel Watson
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1867
Birthplace: BARONY,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Alexander Watson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane Lee
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11622-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516
Reference ID:

There are two deaths on scotlandspeople which could be for this boy.

Didn't think of the possibility David would have been born a Watson...Will have a look on SP :-D

David with his Watson grandparents in 1891:

1891 Scotland Census

Name:David McCamley
Age:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889
Relationship:Grd Son
Where born:Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration District:Old Kilpatrick
16 Clydebank Ter

Alexander Watson 53
Jane Watson 52
Jane Watson 17
David McCamley 2
Robert Carruthers 21
Harry McKay 21

Possibly Agnes's sister living with her in 1901:


1901 Scotland Census
Charlotte Templeton
Age:36
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1865
Relationship:Boarder
Where born:Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
Glasgow Greenhead
12 Landressy St

William McCamley 34
Agnes McCamley 31
David McCamley 12
Jeannie McCamley 10
Alexander McCamley 4
Mary McCamley 2
Charlotte McCamley 3mo
William Templeton 39
Charlotte Templeton 36

Well done U2, I don't know where I would be without you. Cant understand why I'm not finding a marriage for Alexander Watson and Jane Lee?? :-)

There is only one marriage on scotlandspeople for an Alexander Watson to a Janet in Lanarkshire between 1861 and 1865. Have you checked it to see what the brides surname was?

Just about to Potty, I think I may have found her parents on the 1851 and 1861 census, 1851 says Samuel Lee born 1796 Ireland and Mrs Samuel Lee 1792 Glasgow. Which lists Jean born 1836 and Margaret c1844 who could be the one listed on the 1871 with Agnes Watson as "boarder" Samuel is listed on the 1861 census this time wife is named Charlotte Lee. Since the names Samuel and Charlotte appear in the family's name I am guessing this is Janet or Jean Lee's parents...