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1841 census record help please

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supercrutch

supercrutch Report 23 Nov 2013 23:11

Ooooer you have 2 Johns, I'll look, thanks you are are wonderful :-D

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Nov 2013 17:16

You have all these that may be theirs.


1) Anne Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 19 March 1827 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Anne


2) John Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 21 September 1822 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Anne


3) John Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 20 January 1836 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Anne


4) Thomas Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 19 December 1825 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Anne


5) William Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 1 August 1819 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Anne



6) Richard Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 1 October 1840 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Ann


7) Hannah Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 12 April 1824 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy


8) Sarah Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 14 August 1831 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy


9) James Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 5 July 1829 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy


10) Sophia Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 3 June 1838 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy


11) Mary Keziah Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 30 July 1834 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy


12) Elizabeth Ambler

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 11 April 1821 KNOTTINGLEY,YORK,ENGLAND

father: James Ambler
mother: Nancy

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 22 Nov 2013 22:05

Thanks gang :-D

James and Anne (Nancy) had I think, these children:


William Ambler
1819 –

Elizabeth Ambler
1821 –

John Ambler
1822 –

Hannah Ambler
1824 –

Thomas Ambler
1825 –

Anne Ambler
1826 –

James Ambler
1829 –

Sarah Ambler
1833 –

Mary Reziah Ambler
1835 –

Sophia Ambler
1838 – 1908

Richard Ambler
1840 –



Looking at Ambler marriages in Knottingley it appears that a few of the girls were widowed very young so that's another headache.

I'll go through the above now. Thanks again.

x

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Nov 2013 19:31

That's why I couldn't find her. I was thinking this was their marriage?

Parish Record Collection - Marriage Record
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Day: 12
Month: May
Year: 1799
Groom forenames: Thomas
Groom surname: EARNSHAW
Groom's parish: of this Parish
Groom's condition:
Groom's occupation:
Groom's age:
Bride forenames: Elizabeth
Bride surname: ARNOLD
Bride's parish: of this Parish
Bride's condition:
Bride's occupation:
Bride's age:
Place: Knottingley
Description: St Botolph
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Checked: No
Notes:
Record source: Pontefract District Marriages
Data provider: Pontefract & District Family History Society


Of course, none of this is definite. It's all speculation at the moment.


??


West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 about Elizabeth Arnold
Name: Elizabeth Arnold
Event Date: 25 Feb 1780
Event Type: Baptism
Parish: Pontefract, St Giles and St Mary
Father's Name: Joseph Arnold
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Arnold

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 19:17

??

West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about Elizabeth Earnshaw Name: Elizabeth Earnshaw
Birth Date: 1781
Age: 27
Event Date: 31 Jul 1808
Event Type: Burial
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Spouse's Name: Thomas Earnshaw (Waterman)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 19:10

Possibly a sibling.......

??


..West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about Richard Earnshaw Name: Richard Earnshaw
Event Date: 17 Jul 1808
Event Type: Baptism
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Father's Name: Thomas Earnshaw (Waterman)
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Earnshaw

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 22 Nov 2013 18:43

Ooooh thanks, I'm going to look after I have eaten :-D


x

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Nov 2013 18:31

???

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
Print Close
Day: 18
Month: Feb
Year: 1800
Forenames: Nancy
Surname: EARNSHAW
Fathers Forenames: Thomas
Occupation:
Mothers Forenames: Elizabeth
Abode: Knottingley
Place: Pontefract
Description: St Giles
County: Yorkshire W. Riding
Country: England
Checked: N
Notes:
Record source: Pontefract District Baptisms
Data provider: Pontefract & District Family History Society

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 18:26

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Richard Ambler (Bachelor) Waterman....Knottingley
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 27 Jul 1863
Parish: East Knottingley, Christ Church
Father's Name: James Ambler (Mariner)
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Ellison Morley (Spinster)...Knottingley
Spouse's Father's Name: William Morley (Shoemaker)
Witnesses: John Wood and Elizabeth (Locks????)

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Nov 2013 18:24

1851 for Richard.

1851 census transcription details for: Primrose Hill, Pontefract
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2329
Folio: 428
Page: 23
Reg. District: Pontefract
Sub District: Knottingley
Parish:
Enum. District: 11A
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Pontefract
Address: Primrose Hill, Pontefract
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HAYLAND, Thomas Head Married M 31 1820 Waterman
Knottingley, Yorkshire
HAYLAND, Elizh Wife Married F 30 1821
Knottingley, Yorkshire
AMBLER, Richard Visitor M 10 1841 Scholar
Knottingley, Yorkshire


EDIT Ancestry have him as being 70 years old!! Have put in a correction. :-) :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2013 18:14

I can only assume that it's the same Richard who appears on the 1861 census and for some reason the name "Earnshaw" was not included on his baptism record.

Posted earlier......

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Richard Ambler Name: Richard Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1840
Father's Name: James Ambler (Waterman)
Mother's Name: Ann Ambler <<<<<<

So where is he in 1841 and 1851!!

Grrrrrr..........


:-|

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 22 Nov 2013 17:08

Thanks alviegal, I'm blowed if I can find how he fits in :-(

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Nov 2013 16:34

Don't think this has been incuded, supports the marriage to Nancy Earnshaw.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Richard Earnshaw Ambler
Name: Richard Earnshaw Ambler
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1840
Registration District: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 22
Page: 406

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 22 Nov 2013 14:53

No PH I haven't either :-(

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Nov 2013 19:42

Hi Sue

I searched my socks off to try and find Nancy/Ann in the 1841 census.........and the 1851 census where i was hoping to find her with daughter Sophia and son Richard.

I searched on both Ancestry and FMP.........but failed miserably!

Have you managed to find Sophia in the 1851?

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 21 Nov 2013 19:02

Cor PH you have done well, thanks so much. This is a favour for somebody as a pressie to her hubby so we can't grill him for help...lolol

Sue x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Nov 2013 09:22

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Elizabeth Ambler Name: Elizabeth Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1821
Father's Name: James Ambler (Water'm)
Mother's Name: Nancy Ambler


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Hannah Ambler Name: Hannah Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 12 Apr 1824
Father's Name: James Ambler (Water'm)
Mother's Name: Nancy Ambler



..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about William Ambler Name: William Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1819
Father's Name: James Ambler (Water'm)
Mother's Name: Anne Ambler


..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Mary Reziah Ambler Name: Mary Reziah Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 30 Jul 1834
Father's Name: James Ambler (Waterman)
Mother's Name: Nancy Ambler



..West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Mary Rezia Ambler (Spinster)
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 4 Feb 1862
Parish: Pontefract, St Giles and St Mary
Father's Name: James Ambler (Mariner)
Spouse's Name: Robert Pybus (Mariner) Bachelor
Spouse's Father's Name: James Pybus (Mariner)



..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about John Ambler Name: John Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 21 Sep 1822
Father's Name: James Ambler (Water'm)
Mother's Name: Anne Ambler


1841 England Census
about John Ambler Name: John Ambler
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Pontefract
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Pontefract
Sub-registration District: Knottingley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1310
Book: 10
Folio: 54
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
John Ambler 20

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Nov 2013 23:48


..England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Ann Ambler Name: Ann Ambler
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1868
Age at Death: 68
Registration District: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 47

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Nov 2013 23:42

I will check back on here tomorrow..........but a few trees on Ancestry suggest that Nancy refers to herself as Ann........


..1861 England Census
about Ann Ambler Name: Ann Ambler
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Knottingley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Knottingley
Ecclesiastical parish: East Knottingley Christchurch
Town: Knottingley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Pontefract
Sub-registration District: Knottingley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 104
Piece: 3433
Folio: 125
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Ambler 62 (Widow) Household Duties
Hannah Ambler 36 >>>>Daughter (Widow)
Mary Ambler 26
Richard Ambler 19
Elizabeth Johnson 9 (Grandaughter)
Sarah H Johnson 4 (Grandaughter)


..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Johnson Name: Elizabeth Johnson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1850
Registration District: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 22
Page: 499



..England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sarah Hannah Johnson Name: Sarah Hannah Johnson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1857
Registration District: Pontefract
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 65


Hannah's marriage...

Marriages Jun 1844 (>99%)

AMBLER Hannah Pontefract 22 318
JOHNSON Richard Pontefract 22 318

Bingo!!!.....

1851 England Census
about Hannah Johnson Name: Hannah Johnson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Knottingley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Pontefract
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Pontefract
Sub-registration District: Kippax
ED, institution, or vessel: 11d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 65
Piece: 2329
Folio: 485
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Johnson 27 (Mariners Wife)
Elizabeth Johnson 3 Mo
Mary Ambler 17 >>>>>>>>Lodger.....this must be Hannah's Sister



..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Richard Ambler Name: Richard Ambler
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Abode: Knottingley
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1840
Father's Name: James Ambler (Waterman)
Mother's Name: Ann Ambler <<<<<<

Prickles. x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Nov 2013 23:04


..West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about James Ambler Name: James Ambler
Event Date: 24 Mar 1793
Event Type: Baptism
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Father's Name: Wm Ambler


??

..West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about William Ambler Name: William Ambler
Event Date: 2 Apr 1771
Event Type: Baptism
Parish: Knottingley, St Botolph
Father's Name: Willim Ambler