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Just to let you all know my friend Janet + her brother John who wanted this information. are really pleased with all your findings
+as a result had email contact
with some of their relatives ; unfortunately neither have access to email at the moment .

We have continued this story with some members who don't like posting on threads .
when I have some time I will collate all information so far + add it to this story .
Soory for those of you who like instant replies .

she has a photo of martha,smother Jane nee Lanmin

We are very grateful for all the facts you have found so far

martha.s ggdaughter is with me .
Martha Fernley is not the right 1 because her Martha died of shingles in her 90.s in The Manor Hospital Derby living in Abbey st

well that's intriguing ; I won't see the relative til next week
Martha being nearly 100 correlates but living in Macclesfield does not I was told she lived in Abbey St Derby til her death.
William's wife was called Gertrude but he was still living in the photo I saw (late 50's)so I don't know if she could have remarried to a Mr Stevenson ...does probate always go to family members ??

If the death posted by Reggie is right, then it links to this probate record:

Martha Fernley
Probate Date: 5 Jul 1962
Death Date: 9 Jun 1962
Death Place: Macclesfield
Registry: Manchester, England

Martha, of Parkside Hospital, Macclesfield - widow. Probate granted to Gertrude Mary Stevenson, widow. £2149 11s.

Death

Name: FERNLEY, Martha
Registration district: Macclesfield
County: Cheshire
Year of registration: 1962
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death:93
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 355

Stuart; You're right Stanley Winter was not martha's son

The 4 living children on 1911 census for Martha Hempstock nee Davison would have been Albert b1893 ,John Henry (Jack )b 1903 Hempstock
William Thomas Davison b1883
Frederick Davison /Hempstock b1887

Chris;How lovely that there was a double wedding .

Reggie ; yes I did miss the birth ref for William J Fernley ; it would make him older than Martha and I must say on the photo (I'll ask my friend for an approx date) husband Jim looks more to be in his 70's when Martha was in her 90's with grown up grandchildren .The great grand-daughter thought he was a fair bit younger. .Maybe she had a 3rd husband

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Stickney
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 834
DateOfBirth 24 Jan 1890
BaptismDate 06 Apr 1890
Forename Sydney Winton
Sex M
FatherForename
MotherForename Alice Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname HEMPSTOCK
Abode Stickney
FatherOccupation
Notes Single woman

(from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

(same day as Martha)
County Lincolnshire
Place Stickney
Church St Luke
RegisterNumber 271
MarriageDate 12 Nov 1888
GroomForename Fred
GroomSurname JOHNSON
GroomAge 21
GroomParish Stickney
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Bricklayer
GroomAbode Stickney
BrideForename Alice Ann
BrideSurname DAVISON
BrideAge 21
BrideParish Stickney
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Stickney
GroomFatherForename John
GroomFatherSurname JOHNSON
GroomFatherOccupation Butcher
BrideFatherForename Enoch
BrideFatherSurname DAVISON
BrideFatherOccupation Cottager
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname DAVISON
WitnessTwoForename Alice Ann
WitnessTwoSurname HEMPSTOCK
Notes married after banns: first witness made mark:

a GR member pm'ed me that the 4 hempstock boys were frederick ,sydney winter albert and jacky .
I assumed the Sydney W aged 1 with his grandad Seth was martha+ john winter's child.
The name Sydney didn't ring any bells with my friend tho she does remember Albert well and knows that 1 son went to WW1 underage married a lady called May both died of TB shortly afterward,
The other ...pushed a dray round Derby .



I was shown a lovely picture of the very elderly Martha + her 2nd husband "Jim"
with her sons Frederick and William and 4 grandchildren

You obviously didn't notice my posting of the Fernley man's birth record

Not that there need necessarily be any correlation between the given names and that by which he was known.

My late sister-in-law was officially named Irene........but was always known as Molly

Was Sydney Winter Hempstock a child of Martha?? He appears on the 1891 census as Grandchild of Seth and Probable son of Alice.
The 1901 census shows Alice still single with her 4 children, one of which is a Sydney!!

Are Martha's two Albert and John Henry (Jacky) as shown on the 1911 posted by Reggie or are there any others??

1891 census transcription details for: Hall Lane, Stickney

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2601
Folio: 17
Page: 7
Reg. District: Spilsby
Sub District: Stickney
Parish: Stickney
Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: Stickney
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hall Lane, Stickney
County: Lincolnshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HEMPSTOCK, Seth Head Widower M 55 1836 Farm Labourer Stickney, Lincolnshire
HEMPSTOCK, Alice A Daughter Single F 19 1872 Housekeeper Domestic Stickney, Lincolnshire
HEMPSTOCK, Sydney W Grandson M 1 1890 Stickney, Lincolnshire

sorry Reggie yes i was wondering what Fernley's first name was . William doesn't fit but i suppose he could have gone by his middle name if J stands for james. thanks for the baptism details i don't think my friend knew where her grandfather + great grand mother were baptised . I'm off to give her all this information now .

Deaths Dec 1916 (>99%)
Hempstock John 49 Derby 7b 690

R.S.D

Usually stands for Rural Sanitary District.

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Fernley William J Hempstock Derby 7b 2351
Hempstock Martha Fernley Derby 7b 2351


Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
FERNLEY William John Manchester 8d 151

1911 census


Person: HEMPSTOCK, Martha Address: 34 Woods Lane Derby

HEMPSTOCK, John Head M 44 1867 Wine Cellerman Stickney Lincolnshire VIEW
HEMPSTOCK, Martha Wife F 47 1864 Stickney Lincolnshire VIEW
HEMPSTOCK, Albert Son Single M 13 1898 School Derby VIEW
HEMPSTOCK, Jacky Son Single M 8 1903 School Derby

Are we to infer a question in your last post?

If so.....what are you asking, please.

Buy the 1887 birth cert for the address at which the child was born

apparently Martha Hempstock married someone called james ?Jim later and lived in Abbey st Derby ; there is a marriage to Fernley in sep1939 which could be him .