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Yes indeed - wills are very hard to transcribe - Thomas Gotch did have brothers John & Edward mentioned. I'm taking this forward.

Thanks for all the comments .This discussion, having highlighted the significance of Thos Gotch as the founder of the main Gotches, as my next line of pursuit - to find his progenitors and siblings - has awakened me to notes I had previously made but not followed up. I note his Will is at Kew, and that I can follow that up electronically.

Thanks for the above. I'm aware of Fuller Baptists, which tell me that my Mary Gotch's parents were John & Mary Gotch of Kettering. The grandaddy of the famous Cooper-Gotches in that generation now appears to be Thomas Gotch as shown above. So if related I would have to go a generation further back, or otherwise prove this John Gotch was a siblingof Thos Gotch. There are several John & Mary Gotches found recorded and there may be others. My main candidates for this John & Mary Gotch are John Gotch b Clipston 1851 d Kettering 1832 & Mary b 1750 d 1828 Kettering.
The Kettering library claims to hold Gotch archive, but I guess I would check before setting off!
Thanks for pointing out that the Clipston one-name study encompasses Clipsham - I had seen that but it looked like a long shot (but that's the territory I'm in now I guess). I also just tumbled that you don't have to be a GONS member to make an enquiry.

The records will be held at Northamptonshire county record office In Northampton, although I suppose Kettering libriary would also have information

http://www.one-name.org/register.html

(Clipsham on above, if the person links to Gotch)

Chris :)

If Gotch-Philips marriage is an ancestor of the main family,(not sure if that is so) it is separated by only 5 miles (but 30 years) from the Clipsham-Gotch marriage, it still provides a circumstantial connection. Unfortunately so far, nothing more, so I'll go on digging.

Well, thanks for your splendid efforts, including some material new to me. I was aware of the Gotch Archive but thought I'd have to go to Kettering to see it.(and still might) You have put your finger on much of the relevant dilemmas I am trying to solve. Namely that my Mary,who was born a Gotch and buried with all the other Baptist Gotches ,as shown, cannot so far be linked to the famous family described.
I had read elsewhere that the shoemaking Gotches came in from rural Leicestershire/Northamptonshire, as indeed did my Gotch. There are earlier Baptist churches there.
Somewhere out there is a Gotch expert who has a handle on the eighteenth century, given the significance of the name! I've pretty much exhausted the posted trees where a common ancestor or other overlapping tree member exists.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335128

Notes Mary dau of John and Mary

(noticed the Baptisms added above Ann, if it gives a clue with anything)

Chris :)

(below from Find My Past, if relating anywhere, but probably already known)

Year:1774
Month:Oct
Day:18
County:Northamptonshire
Place:Harrington
Title:
Forename:John
Surname:Gotch
Parish:Rushton All Saints
Condition:B
Occupation:
Spouses Title:
Spouses Forename:Mary
Spouses Surname:Philips
Spouses Parish:Harrington
Spouses Condition:S
Spouses Occupation:
Licence or Banns:Banns
Event Type:Marriage
Record source:Northamptonshire Marriages
Data provider:Northamptonshire Family History Society

Year:1806
Month:Nov
Day:3
County:Northamptonshire
Place:Clipston
Title:
Forename:William
Surname:Clipsham
Parish:Kettering
Condition:B
Occupation:
Spouses Title:
Spouses Forename:Mary
Spouses Surname:Gotch
Spouses Parish:Clipston
Spouses Condition:
Spouses Occupation:
Licence or Banns:Banns
Event Type:Marriage
Record source:Northamptonshire Marriages
Data provider:Northamptonshire Family History Society

(worth a look on google)

Tall Tales from the Trees: JOHN COOPER GOTCH (1772-1852) AND ...
talltalesfromthetrees.blogspot.com/.../john-cooper-gotch... Cached
John Cooper Gotch was the only surviving child of thirteen of Thomas Henry Gotch, a Leicestershire farmer who brought the family to Kettering and started ...

Blue Plaque Heritage Trail - KCS 1
homepage.ntlworld.com/rogerjpayne/civic/trail.htm Cached
This years Heritage Trail Blue Plaque will be dedicated to the Architect and first Mayor of Kettering John Alfred Gotch ... Kettering banking and shoe making family.

Kettering

It is likely that there was a textile industry in the town in at least the 13th and 14th
Centuries which it seems was thriving by the seventeenth century - in the form of
woollens. The industry collapsed in the late eighteenth century however the leather
industry, principally shoe manufacture, was introduced, expanded from its original
base in Northampton by the Gotch family, whose business thrived with the wars
against the French. Indeed the Gotch family remained the only leather shoe
manufacturer until the 1850s when others rapidly entered the field.

PDF] 5.0 Location and Setting
www.kettering.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/2382/...
File format: Adobe PDF
Kettering is in a central geographical position in England, on the old A6 road from ... Indeed the Gotch family remained the only leather shoe

PDF] Northamptonshire Archaeology
archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-703...
File format: Adobe PDF
assessment of Chesham House, Kettering Northamptonshire May 2008 Joe Prentice June 2008 ... occupied by the Gotch family whose tenure covered almost 150 years.

[PDF] A GUIDE TO FAMILY AND ESTATE ARCHIVES IN THE NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ...
www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/Community/...
File format: Adobe PDF
A guide to family and estate archives held at the Northamptonshire Record Office Gething to Gunning ... Gotch (Kettering) 1670-1946, 1500 docs., ref. G(K)
Kettering Library - Northamptonshire County Council
www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/.../Pages/Kettering-Library.aspx Cached

Kettering Library is getting into the Christmas spirit and celebrating the start of the festive season with: ... Gotch Family Collection; Special collection - J L ...
Burton Latimer - A Sense of Place - Churches -
www.burtonlatimer.info/churches/financialcrisis.html Cached

Immediately after the bankruptcy proceedings, properties belonging to the Gotch family were sold - three farms, the bank premises in Kettering market place, ...

Thomas Cooper Gotch - Project Kettering: history, memories ...
www.projectkettering.org.uk/page_id__81_path__0p3p20p.aspx Cached
Thomas Cooper Gotch was born in the Mission House, Kettering, in 1854. He was the fourth son of Thomas Henry Gotch. Thomas Cooper Gotch spent his early years in ...
History | Chesham House - Information Sciences Web Server
www.nbsstudents.net/consultnc/history Cached
Thomas Cooper Gotch – His Family. The Gotch’s are an old and distinguished Kettering family. When Thomas Cooper Gotch was born in 1854 his family were going ...

Kettering Genealogy Resources & Parish Registers ...
forebears.co.uk/england/northamptonshire/kettering Cached
Provides a reference to order copies of birth certificates from the national ... Parish registers can assist tracing a family ... Gotch and Saunders, of Kettering, ...

Thomas GOTCH of this parish and Ann LILLEY of this parish
11th March 1807 in Arthingworth

And in Kettering
Thomas GOTCH of this parish and Ann COOPER of this parish
7th Jun 1770 (Kettering BTs)

A Thomas and Ann who may be the second couple bapt some children in Arthingworth starting with a Thomas in 1783.
They did not bapt any children in the Kettering parish church or the Kettering Great Meeting (Congregational church)

The other couple did not bapt any children in Arthingworth from 1807-1812

The Kettering Gotch's at least from 1800's were Non.Conformists
and belonged to the Fuller Baptist Church


Northamptonshire Marriage Index search request - Thomas Gotch ...
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=377098.0 Cached
Thomas GOTCH of this parish and Ann ... They did not bapt any children in the Kettering parish church or the ... National Archives for academic and non ...

The National Archives | National Register of Archives ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectList.asp?... Cached
Gotch family, bankers, of Kettering: ... a catalogue is filed in the National Register of Archives and you can consult it at The National Archives.

Gotch (Kettering) 1670-1946, 1500 docs., ref. G(K)
May.1937, Oct.1937, 1960/152, 1962/120
Thomas Gotch (d.1806), from a Leicestershire farming family, established a boot manufacturing and banking business in Kettering at the end of the 18thC. His son John Cooper Gotch (d.1852), a leading Baptist, continued both businesses and the bulk of the papers in this collection relate to him. Two of his sons John Davis Gotch (d.1870) and Thomas Henry Gotch (d.1891) succeeded him but the bank collapsed in 1856. A third son Frederick William was a Baptist minister. T.H. Gotch had 4 sons, one of whom was John Alfred Gotch (d.1942), an architect, and leading authority on 16th and early 17thC. architecture. Another son Thomas Cooper Gotch (d.1931) was a notable artist.
An important collection of 19thC. papers on politics, business and social history in Kettering. Including papers on navy shoe contracts 1803-1816, mail robbery 1812-1814, poor relief 1782-1824, reports of the Linen Committee 1819-1823, rick fires 1839, Baptists 1813-1833, the Poor Law 1837-1857, elections 1820-1880, banking 1815-1857 and emigration 1830s. Personal correspondence 1790-1885 and letters from emigrants.
(The papers of J.A. Gotch are in a separate collection)
(Gotch, Saunders and Surridge are still a leading architectural practice. Further family papers remain in the custody of the family.)
John Alfred Gotch 1840-1942, 89 docs., ref. JAG
For J.A. Gotch, see Gotch (Kettering) above
Articles and publications by J.A. Gotch, proofs and related papers including his work on Sir Thomas Tresham. Papers on his presidency of the R.I.B.A. 1923. His correspondence


[PDF] A GUIDE TO FAMILY AND ESTATE ARCHIVES IN THE NORTHAMPTONSHIRE ...
www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/Community/...
File format: Adobe PDF
A guide to family and estate archives held at the Northamptonshire ... Gotch (Kettering) 1670-1946, 1500 docs ... Undersheriff’s register of distress warrants ...