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northwood

northwood Report 20 Dec 2013 11:16

I am looking for the birth mother of my grandfather James Parkey born Hattersley Mottram Cheshire in 1860. I have been unable to find anything related to his birth, and wonder if he was born out of wedlock. I know his father was named William Parkey as this is on James Parkey's wedding certificate when he married Harriet Lomas born Doveholes Chapel-en-le-Frith Derbyshire 1881. I will be most grateful for any information on this matter. I have searched for this part of my family for many years, to no avail. Many thanks.
William Derek Parkey.

patchem

patchem Report 20 Dec 2013 11:23

Have you found him on any censuses?

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

Thank-you

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 11:30

For ref.

1891

Name: James Parkey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Parkey
Gender: Male
Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-registration District: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3168
Folio: 37
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
James Parkey 30
Harriet Parkey 28
William Parkey 9
Mary A Parkey 4
James Parkey 2
John Parkey 3 Weeks


1911


Name: James Parkey
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Mottran, Cheshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 108 Crab Lane Hr Blackley Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Laberer
Registration District: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration District: Blackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 24231
Household Members:
Name Age
James Parkey 51
Harriat Parkey 49
Mary Alice Parkey 24
James Parkey 22
John Parkey 20
George Parkey 17
Alfred Parkey 13
Beatrice Parkey 11
Edith Parkey 9
Annie Parkey 7
Fred Parkey 4

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Dec 2013 11:34

Possible? But parents are John & Ann.

1861 England Census
about James J Parkey Name: James J Parkey
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Parkey
Mother's Name: Ann Parkey
Gender: Male
Where born: Mottram in Longdendale

Civil Parish: Mottram in Longdendale
Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Mottram
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 52
Piece: 3003
Folio: 33
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
John Parkey 26
Ann Parkey 30
James J Parkey 1
Wm Parkey 5 Months
Sarah Platt 34
Catherine Platt 24

The Platts are wife's sisters.



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Dec 2013 11:40

Still with parents John & Ann:

1871 England Census
about James Parkey Name: James Parkey
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Parkey
Mother's Name: Ann Parkey
Gender: Male
Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Mottram
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Mottram
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Schedule Number: 163
Piece: 4090
Folio: 41
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
John Parkey 58
Ann Parkey 40
James Parkey 11
William Parkey 10
Mary A Parkey 6
John Parkey 4
Thomas Parkey 3
Sarah Parkey 1



patchem

patchem Report 20 Dec 2013 11:40

?
1881 England Census
James Parkey
Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street Address: Jacksons Row Corp Fire Dept
Occupation: Fireman (Munic)
Registration District: Manchester Sub-registration District: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 3990 Folio: 52 Page Number: 13
Wilson Littledale 33
Emma Littledale 26
Florence Littledale 3
James Parkey 21
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3990; Folio: 52; Page: 13; GSU roll: 1341952.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Dec 2013 11:44

This one was born Hattersley, Cheshire but in 1857 and father is Thomas:

1871 England Census
about James Parkey Name: James Parkey
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Parkey
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Parkey
Gender: Male
Where born: Hattersley, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Matley
Ecclesiastical parish: Mottram
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Stayley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household Schedule Number: 1
Piece: 4092
Folio: 178
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Parkey 46
Sarah Ann Parkey 43
Edward Parkey 24
George Parkey 18
John Parkey 16
James Parkey 14
Eliza Parkey 11
Hamos Parkey 10
Sophia Parkey 5
Tom Parkey 3



greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Dec 2013 12:01

These 2 show up on Cheshire bmd site looking 1856-1864
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARKEY James Mottram Tameside BARKER MOT/10/90

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PARKEY James Joseph Mottram Tameside PLATT MOT/12/41

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Dec 2013 12:07


Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: PARKEY, John
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1859
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 744
MarriageFinder: John Parkey married one of the following people:

HOWARD, Sarah Jane
PLATT, Ann <<<<<<<<<<
SMITH, Thomas

EDIT not finding a Parkey/Barker marriage

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Dec 2013 12:08

Curious! It's got to be one of those two but one had father John and the other Thomas but marriage certificate says William!

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Dec 2013 12:18

Famikly search is showing a marriage 19. May 1861 of a William Parkey to an Ann Schofield @ Ashton under Lynn (?Lyne)

Here it is in Cheshire bmd

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861 to 1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PARKEY William SCHOFIELD Ann Ashton under Lyne, St Michael Tameside CE4/15/80

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Dec 2013 12:22

??
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SCHOFIELD James William Hartshead Tameside BESWICK HAR/27/51
SCHOFIELD James Stayley Tameside SCHOFIELD STY/9/67 <<<<<<<<<<
SCHOFIELD John James Ashton Town Tameside BIBBY AST/50/13

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 12:34

????

1861

Name: James Schofield
Age: 11 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Staleybridge, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Dukinfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Dukinfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 50
Piece: 2996
Folio: 93
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Betty Schofield 77
Fanny Schofield 37
Elizabeth Schofield 14
Joseph Schofield 6
James Schofield 11 Months


1851

Name: Betty Schofield
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Schofield
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Marsden, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stayley
Ecclesiastical parish: Stayley
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Mottram
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 7
Piece: 2239
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Schofield 69
Betty Schofield 66
Sarah Wood 47
Ann Schofield 31 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Fanny Schofield 27
Henry Schofield 23
Elizabeth A Schofield 4
Amy Schofield 2

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Dec 2013 12:42

By George I think you've got it, rootgatherer, born James Schofield before his parents married. That's assuming the father was the man she later married.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 12:51

Might be worth buying the marriage certificate to get more detail?

Marriages Jun 1861
HOLLINGWORTH Mary Ann Ashton 8d 733
Parkey William Ashton 8d 733
SCHOFIELD Ann Ashton 8d 733
Stanney John Ashton 8d 733

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 12:55

Thanks Margee but credit to Stuart who found the the marriage of William Parkey and Ann Schofield on family search then found a birth for James on Cheshire BMDs.

I only then checked out the census. Blowed if I can see William and Ann on later census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Dec 2013 13:11

To avoid confusion i have deleted my earlier post.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 13:28

I was wondering if this the William who married Ann.

1871

Name: William Parkey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stayley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Stayley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 12
Piece: 4092
Folio: 31
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Wood 67
William Parkey 35, Widower

He seems to have remarried

1891

Name: William Parkey
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hagar Parkey
Gender: Male
Where born: Mottram, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Stayleybridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Matley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Dukinfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3292
Folio: 119
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
William Parkey 52
Hagar Parkey 51
Martha Parkey 15
Sarah Parkey 13
James Goslin 46



Marriages Sep 1873
Gankroger Emma Jane B Ashton 8d 859
Gaukroger Emma J B Ashton 8d 859
Oldham William Ashton 8d 859
Parkey William Ashton under Lyne 8d 859 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Senior Hagar Ashton 8d 859 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 Dec 2013 13:36

This is the only death I can see for Ann but the age is out a bit?

Deaths Jun 1866 Parkey Ann 28 Ashton L 8d 405


????

Deaths Jun 1896
Parkey William 5[83] Ashton 8d 355

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Dec 2013 13:38

Thought I'd posted this earlier. It would make her born 1837/8, a similar age to William found by Rootgatherer, but not for Ann Schofield

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: PARKEY, Ann
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1866
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 28
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 405