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I have the same problem in my GR tree - the inter-connected marriages cause a problem, I have 3 lots of inter-relations who appear on my tree twice. Will watch this space to see if anyone has a solution as I haven't found one!

OH!!!! THAT problem!!!

Sorry-dunno. I'm sure someone has come up with a "hint" in the past,though.

Best,
Maureen

Thanks Maureen

I will try to explain my problem.

I am tracing the Fowkes family - so a couple of years ago, I had a JohnT Fowkes & siblings ( including his sister Annie Fowkes ) established in my tree.

I then discovered that John T Fowkes had a son John Henry Fowkes who married an Elsie Bentley - so I entered them on my tree.

Today, I realised that John Henry Fowkes was in fact the nephew of Tohn T Fowkes sister Annie Fowkes who is also the mother of Elsie Bentley - Annie Fowkes married Charles Enoch Bentley.

So on my tree, I am showing Annie Fowkes as sister of John T Fowkes married to Charles Bentley.
I am also showing John T Fowkes having a son John Henry Fowkes who married Elsie Bentley - but I cant pysically ( on my tree ) connect Elsie to her mum as then I would have two Elsies on my tree - not sure if that makes sense enough for you to visualise???

Help please - how do I round this connection on my tree - do I have to delete some 'characters' and re-enter?

No,Gill,that still doesn't make sense to me. :-S

Annie is in 2 different places? Where please?

Maureen

Thanks to you all - for all your help.

Ddoes anyone know how to link up these tree members as I have Annie in two different places.........( hope that makes sense ).

Thanks,Chris!

Not really "with it" today. :-)

Maureen ;-) <3

(seems right there Maureen, from below, not sure if Gillian did get the Marriage Cert.)

he married Elsie Bentley at St Margaret's Church, Leicester on 5th May 1917

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1284026?page=0

Chris :)

So...just to wrap my brain around this....
Elsie BENTLEY married her cousin John FOWKES in 1917?

His service records are also on Ancestry. He was the son of John and Susan ...born 1879. John (father) looks as though he was Annie Fowkes BENTLEY's brother.


Maureen

..British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Leonard Bentley Name: Leonard Bentley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Age at Enlistment: 18
Residence: 31 Pasture Lane, Leicester
Document Year: 1918
Regimental Number: 171871
Regiment Name: Leicestershire Rgt
Number of images: 17


Occupation: Hossery
Height 5ft 7 1/2 inches
109 lbs
Brown hair
Clear complexion
Brown eyes
Physical development... Good
Scar..Bottom back

Next of Kin: Charles Enoch Bentley...(1?) Pasture Lane Leicester...(Father)

P.H
I can see that you may feel it has been a waste of time - but honestly - it hasnt ...
.I have learnt a lot more info today and connected someone who I hadnt realised was connected..........( maybe I am a bit slower than you guys ) - but I really do appreciate your help.

GIll

Chris

Yep - I had honestly forgotten about that posting in 1911!

I am coming back to this part of my tree 2-3yrs later, and am still a bit confused by all the info received. I am tracing the Fowkes family from Leicester and when I got to
a John Henry Fowkes, I noticed that he had married an Elsie Bentley - I had her father as Charles Bentley who married a Anne or Annie - surname unknown. I now believe that this was Anne Fowkes. so on my tree I have two anne fowkes who are one & the same ( I believe)

I have stored it and will sift through it all to try to unravel it.....

but, does anyone know how to link up these tree members as I have Annie in two different places.........( hope that makes sense ).

Oh dear.

It seems we have all spent time searching for info that has already been posted before!

:-(

Thanks P.H.

Maureen - thats a great find - it proves that Charles & Enoch are in fact one & the same person.........

I dont have ancestry Im afraid - so would not have found all this info without your help

Thanks again
Gill

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1286686?page=0

(is above info. relating?)

Chris :)

Leonard Bentley's service records are on Ancestry. He gives his father's name as Charles Enoch Bemtley.


Maureen

Edit: Sigh. BENTLEY. :-)

Looking through the census records of the parents Enoch and Catherine....they do not appear to have a son called Charles.

I have no idea why he signed his name as "Charles" on the 1911........but following on from the 1891 and 1901, i would say it is too much of a coincidence for it not to be Enoch!

Perhaps he just peferred the name Charles.

Hi Stuart & Maureen - sorry - our messages crossed - many thanks forthe info on the addresses........

Thanks folks ...all info stored for future ref:

I need to confirm or not whether Charles Bentley & Enoch Bently are one & the same person ( or brothers)???

I have found an Enoch Bentley married to Annie Fowkes
also a
Charles Bentley married to either Ann Smith or a Sarah ANN Coulson or a SusANNA Booth or a Hannah Vernon.....all could call themselves Annie.

It is still possible that brothers Enoch & Charles both lived at different addresses in Pasture Lane Leicester. and may have similar childrens names?

Is it possible to check who was living at 31 in 1901?
and who was living at 34 in 1911

This may help answer the question.

This is FMP's version of the 1901 census, with the family at 36 Pasture Lane - I wondered why 34 didn't come up in an address search!
Looking at the original - father Enoch is noted Schedule 57 No 34 House Uninhabited. The 57 has then been crossed out and given to the Rest of family at No 36, the next house, but he remains at No 34!!

1901 census transcription details for: 36, Pasture Lane, Leicester

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2988
Folio: 80
Page: 8
Reg. District: Leicester
Sub District: North West Leicester
Parish: Leicester
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 36, Pasture Lane, Leicester
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BENTLEY, Enoch Head Married M 41 1860 Chimney Sweep Burton on Trent, Staffordshire
BENTLEY, Annie Wife Married F 38 1863 Leicester
BENTLEY, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Spinner Leicester
BENTLEY, Minnie Daughter Single F 13 1888 Office Girl At Cotton Mill Leicester
BENTLEY, Elsie Daughter Single F 7 1894 Leicester
BENTLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1896 Leicester
BENTLEY, Leonard Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1901

Just for the address:
1881 Ancestry Annie Fowkes
Name: Annie Fowkes
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Thomas Fowkes
Mother: Elizabeth Fowkes
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Pasture Lane
Occupation: Factory Hand (Tex)
Registration District: Leicester
Sub-registration District: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 113
Piece: 3172
Folio: 57
Page Number: 11
Thomas Fowkes 49
Elizabeth Fowkes 50
???Annie Fowkes 15
Maud Fowkes 14
Joseph Fowkes 12
Henry Fowkes 9
Mary Fowkes 12
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3172; Folio: 57; Page: 11