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EmilyJade
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4 Jan 2014 23:04 |
Could anyone with access to overseas records be able to me about the marriage between Ernest Adolphus Thums (often known as just Adolphus) born 1895 and his wife who I believe to be called Anna. Ernest was born in New York to Annie Kirkby and Arthur Albert Thums. Thank you!
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EmilyJade
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4 Jan 2014 23:19 |
If anyone could tell me whether they had children I'd be really very grateful.
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Sylvia
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4 Jan 2014 23:28 |
I can only find this one in 1910 •First Name: Ernest A •Last Name: Thums •Year Of Birth: 1896 •Age: 14 •Birth Place: New York •Gender: Male •Marital Status: Single •Father's Birth Place: England •Mother's Birth Place: England •Race: White •Immigration Year: - •City/Township: Sidney •County: Delaware •State: New York •Record set: US Census 1910 •Category: Census, Land & Substitutes •Record collection: Census •Collections from: United States &
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4 Jan 2014 23:31 |
This is dated 5 Jun 1917, and he is single, working at the Thums Silk Mill
Name: Adolphus Ernest Thums County: Niagara State: New York Birthplace: New York,United States of America Birth Date: 6 Jun 1895 Race: Caucasian (White) Draft Board: 1
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EmilyJade
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4 Jan 2014 23:32 |
spouse: Anna Thums Name Adolphus Thums Titles and Terms Event Type Census Event Year 1930 Event Place Irvington, Essex, New Jersey, United States District 0468 Gender Male Age 35 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1895 Birthplace New York Immigration Year Father's Birthplace England Mother's Birthplace England Sheet Number and Letter 4A Household ID 99 Line Number 20 Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number T626 Affiliate Film Number 1331 GS Film number 2341066 Digital Folder Number 004660868
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4 Jan 2014 23:33 |
Single in 1920
Name: Adolphos Thums Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1896 Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: North Tenawanda Ward 4, Niagara, New York Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Authur Thums Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Name: Anna Thums Mother's Birthplace: England
Household Members: Name Age Authur Thums 51 Anna Thums 53 Authur E Thums 33 [23] Adolphos Thums 24 Lillian Jameson 32 John H Jameson 43
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4 Jan 2014 23:35 |
Burial
Birth: 1895 Death: 1961
Burial: Biglerville Cemetery Biglerville Adams County Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/
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EmilyJade
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4 Jan 2014 23:40 |
Nothing about a wife? He was known as Adolphus at some points
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Sylvia
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4 Jan 2014 23:41 |
No children in 1930 Adolphus Thums
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Irvington, Essex, New Jersey
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Thums
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
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Household Members:
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Adolphus Thums 35 Anna Thums
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4 Jan 2014 23:42 |
Fuller details of 1930 1930 United States Federal Census about Adolphus Thums Name: Adolphus Thums Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1895 Birthplace: New York Race: White Home in 1930: Irvington, Essex, New Jersey Map of Home: View map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Anna Thums Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: Auto? Laundry
Age at first marriage: 30 for Adolphus and 33 for Anna
Parents' birthplace:England for Adolphus and Pennsylvania for Anna (as was she)
Household Members: Name Age Adolphus Thums 35 Anna Thums 38
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4 Jan 2014 23:44 |
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1940 United States Federal Census about A E Thuma Name: A E Thuma Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: New York Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Newark, Essex, New Jersey Map of Home in 1940: Street: Parker Street House Number: 541 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: Newark, Essex, New Jersey Residence in 1935: Same Place Sheet Number: 4A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 65 Occupation: Coal Dealer House Owned or Rented: Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 90 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: College, 1st year Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 50 Class of Worker: Working on own account Weeks Worked in 1939: 52 Income: 0 Income Other Sources: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age A E Thuma 44 Anna R Thuma 46 Mary Stevens 88 - Lodger Florence Walling 45 - Servant
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4 Jan 2014 23:53 |
New York, Abstracts of World War I Military Service, 1917-1919 about Adolphus Ernest Thums Name: Adolphus Ernest Thums Birth Place: North Tonawanda, New York Birth Date: abt 1895 Service Start Date: 15 Dec 1917 Service Start Place: Buffalo, New York Service Start Age: 22
Details from image. Remember that US dates are Month/day/year
Thums- Adolphus Ernest Recruiting Station Buffalo NY. Service number 103-81-72 Age at entry 22 yrs 6mos (12-15-17) Rate Landsman Electrician – Radio Home address 158 Christiana Street, North Tonawanda NY Served at Naval Training Station, Great Lakes ILL 1-17-18 to 6-6-18 Naval Radio School, Cambridge Mass 6-6-18 to 11-11-18 Landsman Electrician Radio Discharge 3-28-19 Base Headquarters 1st Naval District, Boston Mass Grade – Seaman 2nd Class
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4 Jan 2014 23:55 |
As your query was the date of marriage, the nearest we can get based on the 1930 census, is that it took place 1925 +/- 1
No children appeared on that or the 1940 census.
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EmilyJade
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5 Jan 2014 00:03 |
Hm, still no children. This basically means the family stopped over there now, no kids
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EmilyJade
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5 Jan 2014 00:09 |
Any marriages for an Arthur E Thums? Born 1885 Born in England but immigrated to New York with the family. Brother of Ernest.
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5 Jan 2014 00:11 |
A tree on Ancestry has Anna named as Annie Rebecca Stover Birth 08 Oct 1890 in Cashtown, PA Death 15 Jun 1977 in West Chester, PA
Death notice for Adolphus - you have to subscribe to read the original DEATH Adolphus E. Thums Adolphus E. Thums, 66, of Newark, N.J., who died Thursday al 'ottstown Hospital, will be buried Monday afternoon at 1 o'clock in Jiglerville Cemetery following graveside services. A native of Sidney, N.Y., a son f the late Arthur and Annie Kirby) Thums, he was a veteran f World War I. and was a real estate broker. He had gone to 'ottstown to visit friends, became II, was removed to the hospital nd death followed an operation. In addition to his wife, the ormer Anna Stover: a brother. Bert Thums Newark, N J , and sister. Mrs. Lillian Jameson, rvington, N.J., he is survived by number of more distant relatives n the Biglerville area. Funeral services Sunday evening at 8 o'clock at the Cole Funeral Home. Newark. N.J. Local arrangements are being made hrough the Bender Funeral Home
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/46460521/
The same tree has an announcement attached related to Anna. Rather than type the lot out, I'll send by PM as an attachment
The marriage to Adolphus was her 2nd, and no children from that marriage were mentioned. Her first marriage was to Edward Cleveland Freed 1907 24 Aug Age: 16 Hagerstown, MD
As he didn't die until 1977, they probably divorced.
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MarieCeleste
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5 Jan 2014 00:18 |
Connected thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335831?page=1
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5 Jan 2014 00:25 |
Just to give Arthur's dob U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Arthur Edwin Thums Name: Arthur Edwin Thums County: Niagara State: New York Birth Date: 20 Jun 1885 Race: White
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Arthur Edwin Thums Name: Arthur Edwin Thums Probate Date: 8 Mar 1938 Death Date: 18 Aug 1937 Death Place: Derbyshire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England
Of Church Farm Little Eaton, Derbyshire. Admin to Henry James Thums farmer. Effects £254 0s 11d
Probably not this death from BMD suggests a birth c 1874 Deaths Sep 1937 (>99%) Thums Arthur E 63 Shardlow 7b 403
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5 Jan 2014 00:37 |
Can't find Arthur on the 1940 - it could be poorly transcribed. The census is available on Familysearch.org
Births and marriages aren't held by the National Government in the US - they are held at state or even county level. There aren't that many of them on line. The same applies to deaths, although the SSDI did partially come into effect from 1937, with most records dating from 1967. It can be searched on Familysearch for free.
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5 Jan 2014 10:49 |
Ability to download Adolphus' death article still not available.
Looking at the tree as a whole, the tree owner, Sukilover, is the grandaughter Annis Stover, through a child of her first marriage.
You could probably find it and contact the owner via Mundia.com. Try this link - you may have to register and sign in first; it's free http://www.mundia.com/gb/Person/47812685/20032799349
If you can't find the correct tree and would like me to do so via Ancestry, please send a PM with your email address.
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