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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jan 2014 00:25

Just to give Arthur's dob
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Arthur Edwin Thums
Name: Arthur Edwin Thums
County: Niagara
State: New York
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1885
Race: White

Posting this in case it is relevant

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Arthur Edwin Thums
Name: Arthur Edwin Thums
Probate Date: 8 Mar 1938
Death Date: 18 Aug 1937
Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Registry: Nottinghamshire, England

Of Church Farm Little Eaton, Derbyshire. Admin to Henry James Thums farmer. Effects £254 0s 11d

Probably not this death from BMD suggests a birth c 1874
Deaths Sep 1937 (>99%)
Thums Arthur E 63 Shardlow 7b 403

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Jan 2014 00:18

Connected thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1335831?page=1

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Jan 2014 00:11

A tree on Ancestry has Anna named as
Annie Rebecca Stover
Birth 08 Oct 1890 in Cashtown, PA
Death 15 Jun 1977 in West Chester, PA

Death notice for Adolphus - you have to subscribe to read the original
DEATH Adolphus E. Thums Adolphus E. Thums, 66, of Newark, N.J., who died Thursday al 'ottstown Hospital, will be buried Monday afternoon at 1 o'clock in Jiglerville Cemetery following graveside services. A native of Sidney, N.Y., a son f the late Arthur and Annie Kirby) Thums, he was a veteran f World War I. and was a real estate broker. He had gone to 'ottstown to visit friends, became II, was removed to the hospital nd death followed an operation. In addition to his wife, the ormer Anna Stover: a brother. Bert Thums Newark, N J , and sister. Mrs. Lillian Jameson, rvington, N.J., he is survived by number of more distant relatives n the Biglerville area. Funeral services Sunday evening at 8 o'clock at the Cole Funeral Home. Newark. N.J. Local arrangements are being made hrough the Bender Funeral Home

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/46460521/

The same tree has an announcement attached related to Anna.
Rather than type the lot out, I'll send by PM as an attachment

The marriage to Adolphus was her 2nd, and no children from that marriage were mentioned. Her first marriage was to Edward Cleveland Freed 1907 24 Aug
Age: 16 Hagerstown, MD

As he didn't die until 1977, they probably divorced.

EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 5 Jan 2014 00:09

Any marriages for an Arthur E Thums? Born 1885
Born in England but immigrated to New York with the family. Brother of Ernest.

EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 5 Jan 2014 00:03

Hm, still no children. This basically means the family stopped over there now, no kids

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:55

As your query was the date of marriage, the nearest we can get based on the 1930 census, is that it took place 1925 +/- 1

No children appeared on that or the 1940 census.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:53

New York, Abstracts of World War I Military Service, 1917-1919 about Adolphus Ernest Thums
Name: Adolphus Ernest Thums
Birth Place: North Tonawanda, New York
Birth Date: abt 1895
Service Start Date: 15 Dec 1917
Service Start Place: Buffalo, New York
Service Start Age: 22

Details from image. Remember that US dates are Month/day/year

Thums- Adolphus Ernest
Recruiting Station Buffalo NY.
Service number 103-81-72
Age at entry 22 yrs 6mos (12-15-17)
Rate Landsman Electrician – Radio
Home address 158 Christiana Street, North Tonawanda NY
Served at
Naval Training Station, Great Lakes ILL 1-17-18 to 6-6-18
Naval Radio School, Cambridge Mass 6-6-18 to 11-11-18 Landsman Electrician
Radio
Discharge 3-28-19 Base Headquarters 1st Naval District, Boston Mass
Grade – Seaman 2nd Class


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:44

????

1940 United States Federal Census about A E Thuma
Name: A E Thuma
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Map of Home in 1940:
Street: Parker Street
House Number: 541
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 4A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 65
Occupation: Coal Dealer
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 90
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 1st year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 50
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
A E Thuma 44
Anna R Thuma 46
Mary Stevens 88 - Lodger
Florence Walling 45 - Servant

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:42

Fuller details of 1930
1930 United States Federal Census about Adolphus Thums
Name: Adolphus Thums
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Irvington, Essex, New Jersey
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Thums
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Auto? Laundry

Age at first marriage: 30 for Adolphus and 33 for Anna

Parents' birthplace:England for Adolphus and Pennsylvania for Anna (as was she)

Household Members:
Name Age
Adolphus Thums 35
Anna Thums 38

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2014 23:41

No children in 1930
Adolphus Thums

Gender:
Male

Birth Year:
abt 1895

Birthplace:
New York

Race:
White

Home in 1930:
Irvington, Essex, New Jersey

Map of Home:
View map

Marital Status:
Married

Relation to Head of House:
Head

Spouse's Name:
Anna Thums

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England


Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:



View Image


Neighbors:
View others on page

Household Members:


Name

Age

Adolphus Thums 35
Anna Thums


EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 4 Jan 2014 23:40

Nothing about a wife?
He was known as Adolphus at some points

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:35

Burial

Birth: 1895
Death: 1961


Burial:
Biglerville Cemetery
Biglerville
Adams County
Pennsylvania, USA

http://www.findagrave.com/

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:33

Single in 1920

Name: Adolphos Thums
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1920: North Tenawanda Ward 4, Niagara, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Authur Thums
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Anna Thums
Mother's Birthplace: England

Household Members:
Name Age
Authur Thums 51
Anna Thums 53
Authur E Thums 33
[23]
Adolphos Thums 24
Lillian Jameson 32
John H Jameson 43

EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 4 Jan 2014 23:32


spouse: Anna Thums
Name Adolphus Thums
Titles and Terms
Event Type Census
Event Year 1930
Event Place Irvington, Essex, New Jersey, United States
District 0468
Gender Male
Age 35
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1895
Birthplace New York
Immigration Year
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Sheet Number and Letter 4A
Household ID 99
Line Number 20
Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number T626
Affiliate Film Number 1331
GS Film number 2341066
Digital Folder Number 004660868

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Jan 2014 23:31

This is dated 5 Jun 1917, and he is single, working at the Thums Silk Mill

Name: Adolphus Ernest Thums
County: Niagara
State: New York
Birthplace: New York,United States of America
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1895
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 1

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 4 Jan 2014 23:28

I can only find this one in 1910
•First Name: Ernest A
•Last Name: Thums
•Year Of Birth: 1896
•Age: 14
•Birth Place: New York
•Gender: Male
•Marital Status: Single
•Father's Birth Place: England
•Mother's Birth Place: England
•Race: White
•Immigration Year: -
•City/Township: Sidney
•County: Delaware
•State: New York
•Record set: US Census 1910
•Category: Census, Land & Substitutes
•Record collection: Census
•Collections from: United States &

EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 4 Jan 2014 23:19

If anyone could tell me whether they had children I'd be really very grateful.

EmilyJade

EmilyJade Report 4 Jan 2014 23:04

Could anyone with access to overseas records be able to me about the marriage between
Ernest Adolphus Thums (often known as just Adolphus) born 1895 and his wife who I believe to be called Anna.
Ernest was born in New York to Annie Kirkby and Arthur Albert Thums.
Thank you!