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Charles Edward Ackroyd-1905-1959

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Jo

Jo Report 11 Jan 2014 21:59

Charles was born in Sheffield married to Frances Ethel Machon in Nelson Lancs in 1931 and died in Newark on Trent, Leciester in 1959. He was a keen musician, violinst, & sportsman. I am seeking information on his social and employment history. Family gossip has him as a policemen, before marriage, and band master in later years. I know nothing about his parents or siblings.
Help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Jo

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 11 Jan 2014 22:07

Ordering his birth certificate will give his parents names

Name: Charles Edward Ackroyd
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1905
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 655

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jan 2014 22:13

His baptism?

Parish Record Collection - Baptism Record
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Day: 13
Month: Jun
Year: 1905
Forename: Charles Edward
Surname: Ackroyd
Relationship: Son
Fathers Forename: Edward Helliwell
Fathers Occupation: Driver
Fathers Abode: Park House, Norland
Mothers Forename: Mary Ann
Mothers Abode:
Birth Date: April 5th 1905
Place: Luddenden, St Mary
County: Yorkshire
Notes: Poor
Record source: Luddenden Baptisms
Data provider: Calderdale Family History Society


1911 census transcription details for: 41 Willow Street Sowerby Bridge
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN26431 RG78PN1527 RD496 SD4 ED2 SN169
Reg. District: Halifax
Sub District: Sowerby
Parish: Sowerby Bridge
Enum. District: 2
Address: 41 Willow Street Sowerby Bridge
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ACKROYD, Edward Head Married M 31 1880 Ballastman S And Y Railway Yorkshire Sowerby Bdge
ACKROYD, Mary Ann Wife Married
6 years F 32 1879 Yorkshire Sowerby Bdge
BROCKLEHURST, William Boarder Single M 35 1876 Ballastman S And Y Railway Yorkshire Sowerby Bdge
ACKROYD, Charlie Son M 5 1906 School Yorkshire Sowerby Bdge
ACKROYD, Lewis Son M 4 1907 School Yorkshire Sowerby Bdge
ACKROYD, Hebert Son M 3 1908
ACKROYD, Florence Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Jan 2014 22:14

Name: Charles Edward Ackroyd
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1905
Parish: Luddenden, St Mary
Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1905
Father's Name: Edward Helliwell Ackroyd, Occ. Driver
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Ackroyd
Abode: Park House, Norland

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Jan 2014 22:16

Marriages Dec 1904
Ackroyd Edward Helliwell Halifax 9a 769 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BROCKLEHURST Mary Ann Halifax 9a 769 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Miller Mary Hannah Halifax 9a 769
Spencer Charley Halifax 9a 769

Though Hannah sometimes has the variant Ann, so I wouldn't completely rule out Mary Hannah Miller.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Jan 2014 22:17

There were 2 Charles Edward Ackroyds born in West Yorkshire in the April quarter of 1905 - one in Sheffield and one in Halifax.

I think the baptisms above are those for the Halifax boy as I've followed them through to a marriage in 1929 to an Alice Walker.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Jan 2014 22:20

????

Name: Edward Ackroyd
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sowerby Bdge, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sowerby Bridge
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 41 Willow St Sowerby Bridge
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Ballastman Lt Y Railway
[Ballastman L and Y Railway]
Registration District: Halifax
Registration District Number: 496
Sub-registration District: Sowerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 26431
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Ackroyd 31
Mary Ann Ackroyd 32
William Ackroyd 35
Charlie Ackroyd 5
Lewis Ackroyd 4
Hebert Ackroyd 3
Florance Ackroyd 7/12

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jan 2014 22:23

That one has a different wife though.


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 about Charles Edward Ackroyd
Name: Charles Edward Ackroyd
Birth Year: abt 1906
Marriage or Bann Date: 26 Jan 1929
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: Edwarn Helliwoll Ackroyd
Spouse's Name: Alce Enslyn Walker
Spouse's Father's Name: Alexander Walker

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 11 Jan 2014 22:23

Just to make it clear, as I posted above:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1905
Ackroyd Charles Edward Halifax 9a 439
Ackroyd Charles Edward Sheffield 9c 655

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Jan 2014 22:26

Think you are correct MarieCeleste.

Luddenden is a district of Calderdale west of Halifax on the river Ludd in the county of West Yorkshire, England.

alviegal

alviegal Report 11 Jan 2014 22:30

This is Frances anyway.


1911 census transcription details for: 27 Primrose Street Nelson Lancashire
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN24901 RG78PN1424 RD472 SD4 ED21 SN344
Reg. District: Burnley
Sub District: Nelson
Parish: Nelson
Enum. District: 21
Address: 27 Primrose Street Nelson Lancashire
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MACHON, John Russell Head Married M 37 1874 Plumbers Labourer Lincoln Lincolnshire
MACHON, Frances Annie Wife Married
12 years F 30 1881 Eston Yorkshire
MACHON, John Robert Son M 10 1901 School Eston Yorkshire
MACHON, James Edward Son M 9 1902 School Eston Yorkshire
MACHON, Walter Son M 7 1904 School Nelson Lancashire
MACHON, Frances Ethel Daughter F 6 1905 School Nelson Lancashire
MACHON, Ida Mary Daughter F 5 1906 School Nelson Lancashire
MACHON, Winifred Beatrice Daughter F 1 1910 Nelson Lancashire

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Jan 2014 01:24

There most definitely is more than one Charles Edward Ackroyd.


I think the best course of action would be to buy his MARRIAGE certificate, to get the name of his father, otherwise you are likely to be led astray.

Marriages Mar 1931 (>99%)

Ackroyd Charles E Machon Burnley 8e 336
Machon Frances E Ackroyd Burnley 8e 336


It will cost £9.25 from General Records Office (GRO)
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Never pay any more than that amount



Another line of search might be to see if you can find an obituary for him in a local newspaper ........ such obituaries are often a mine if information.

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jan 2014 09:36

Is this one the other one?

http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/CharlesEdwardAckroyd/5567020

Added:
(Marriage Halifax in 1953)

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Jan 2014 16:34

Hello Jo and welcome to the Community boards.






I'll let Jo know that she has replies to her query... :-)

Jo

Jo Report 13 Jan 2014 04:34

Thank you to all those replied. Thank you Cynthia for the how to sheet, I have never been on any message board before. I have requested his birth ,marriage and deaths certificates as suggested, just waiting on post. I also discovered the two Charles born in same period. Believe I am looking for the Sheffield born one but will see. To patchem what a wonderful site. I wish it was my Charles but no. Thanks for the 1911 Census info I'll look into all that.

Jo

Jo Report 14 Jan 2014 00:31

Just got the marriage certificate in the post. Charles's father was Abraham Ackroyd [deceased] General Carter. Charles residence at time of marriage was 44 Spring Pl Eastbrook Sheffield. Occupation Labourer at industrial steelworks. :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2014 01:30

oops .........

I think Abraham is not a name mentioned for his father in earlier posts :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2014 01:32

Jo ...............


do resist the temptation to tick as answered ANY posts on any of your threads in future!

It shows that the question posed in your opening post has been answered ......... and it very clearly has not. Yet, people will no longer open the thread to see if they can help!


Unfortunately, a glitch that GR is trying to fix, means that you cannot untick, so you are stuck with it on this thread!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2014 01:43

This raises more questions!

I found Abraham in 1911 at the address given on Charles's marriage certificate ..................but there is no Charles!!


1911 Census

Name: Abraham Ackroyd
Age in 1911: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Spring Place Attercliffe Sheffield
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Maunig Excaiating For Mew Building
[Navvy excavating for new building]
Registration District: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration District: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 27993

Abraham Ackroyd 51
Sarah Ann Ackroyd 46 b.ca 1865, Doncaster, Yorkshire
Richard Ackroyd 17 b.ca 1894, Sheffield, Rolling Dept (backer)
George Ackroyd 19 b.ca 1892, Sheffield, Rolling Dept (stracybtering ???) <<< ?? (straightening)
Aores Ackroyd 3 b.ca 1908, Sheffield, Daughter <<<<< Doris
Goe Ackroyd 13 b.ca 1898, Sheffield, Scholar <<<< ?? Joe
Rhoda Ackroyd 10 b.ca 1901, Sheffield, Scholar
Jack Bookcrek 37 Lodger <<<< Boocock


Ackroyds married 28 years, 11 children, 11 children survived



?????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Abraham Ackroyd

Name: Abraham Ackroyd
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Age at Death: 51
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 883



now .................... where was Charles in 1911?????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2014 01:46

there's something strange going on!!