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hi potty
on the marriage cert it just says residence at time of marriage is hetton downs..
doesnt give a number or anything...but ive just noticed on the 1891 census it says
Ecclesiastical parish: Eppleton
> Town: Hetton Downs
County/Island: Durham...
john henry street address is eppleton row
hmmmm maybe i can see some light after all...but no sign of mary...on the census info posted above...but i am now starting to think this is her family but she was living and working as a servant in the county hotel old elvet..its around that time ore am i just trying to make it fit...

Did Mary give her occupation on the marriage certificate please?

That 1881 census does look hopeful.

1881

Name: Mary Henry
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Elvet
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: County Hotel
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Domestic Serv

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4954
Folio: 71
Page Number: 17

no there is no occupation, just that she is 23 spinster feb 11th 1885 (the marriage)
residence hetton downs,,,father is john and his profession in calico weaver...but i suppose he could have changed his job numerous times as it seams when mary henry had been married they moved a lot, prob going where the work was

That family does fit rather perfectly ... but it could be coincidence, another family from Ireland with a fairly common name ...

One thing you might do if you want to put a bit of money into it is check daughter Sarah Jane's marriage certificate

Marriages Sep 1883
CHANDLER Richard Sunderland 10a 834
Henry Sarah Jane Sunderland 10a 834

and see what it says about her father John Henry

do the witness's names on the marriage certificate seem to mean anything ?

a bit more info about Sarah who was (also) working away from home in 1881

Name: Sarah Henry
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Servant
Where born: Derry Po...urne (CNS) *

Civil Parish: Houghton Le Spring
County/Island: Durham
Street address: 12 Newbottle St Lamb Inn
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Houghton Le Spring

* what it says is Derry Portlenone I think

which seems to be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portglenone
Portglenone, County Antrim

which fits with the person in the tree here at this website


there is also Jane Henry in the 1901 shown born in Durham and is called sister-in-law but she is also shown as married - so either she was the wife of a brother of Sarah or she was a married sister of Sarah whose surname was recorded incorrectly

I think she was probably the sister-in-law, this is likely her and her husband in 1891

Name: Thomas Henry
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Henry
Where born: Armagh, Ireland
Civil Parish: Hetton le Hole

this is Thomas in 1911

Name: Thomas Henry
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Armagh, Ireland
Civil Parish: Harraton
County/Island: Durham
Street address: 15 Biddick Row Washington Durham
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Chester le Street

Armagh being where Sarah Jane reported in 1911 that she was born ... which makes it all a bit confusing although they certainly look like the same peope ...

it looks like i have found john henry death, 1887 aged 74 houghton (co durham) which would tie in with the info that you ve post already. and using the info you gave me about isabella cochran and john henry marriage abt 1849. i put the details in (irish roots site) it actually has his occupation (weaver) and his father was called john henry also and same occupation. isabella no occupation but her father thomas was a flax scutcher( what ever that is aint googled it yet). just carnt find birth of mary.(maybe the unamed henery birth is the one who knows.

Ireland, Select Marriages, 1619-1898
John Henry

Gender:Male
Marriage Date:6 Mar 1849
Marriage Place:Civil Records, , Misc, Ireland
Father: John Henry
Spouse: Isabella Cochran
FHL Film Number:101309
Reference ID:2:PL785M


Name:John Henry
Date of Registration:1849
Registration district:Newry
Volume:8
Page Number:511
FHL Film Number:101242

The volume and page no from the last would enable you to order the marriage cert from Ireland.

where would i order the certificate using the info you posted??? ;-)

well that's excellent info that you found about the John and Isabella marriage -- I actually don't think the certificate would tell you anything else, that is the info you wanted a certificate for ( occcupation, father's name, father's occupation )

I have tried at familysearch for the birth of any Henry or Henery (or Hendry) birth at all to John and Isabella but the unnamed one is all there is that I can find.

Details here

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx


By Post:
Office of the Registrar General,
Government Offices
Convent Road,
Roscommon,
Co. Roscommon,
Ireland.

thanx again to u all for your help...apprechiated soooooo much
cheers
sean

That family does fit rather perfectly ... but it could be coincidence, another family from Ireland with a fairly common name ...

One thing you might do if you want to put a bit of money into it is check daughter Sarah Jane's marriage certificate

Marriages Sep 1883
CHANDLER Richard Sunderland 10a 834
Henry Sarah Jane Sunderland 10a 834

and see what it says about her father John Henry

do the witness's names on the marriage certificate seem to mean anything ?

a bit more info about Sarah who was (also) working away from home in 1881

hi all...
just to say thanx for the help...i sent away for the above marriage cert as advise by joonie and it arrived today...as yes great news sarahs father john henry is also listed as calico weaver for occupation but even better the witness names for the marriage were GUESS WHAT? yeah Mary Henry and Alexander Scott!! bingo! :-D

well that is just about as perfect as it comes !!

congratulations on your amazing luck (with a little help) :-)

through one door and on to the next wall :-D

Great stuff Sean! And you'll have found the will to live again lol. :-)

on this site there's a sarah jane henry born in antrim in 1862
its pay per view

http://www.rootsireland.ie/