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thanks for all your hard work. The children born to Frank Ensor and Annie Tracey before they married are registered in her maiden name . Frank 1938. Maureen Jose.. June Marie. George Geoffrey and Arlette. I am informed by a family member that her Parents did not want her to marry. I suppose there must be a divorce record for Frank and Gertrude or may be not? They did only have the one child Winifred Joyce and I have most of her details now. Thanks again Kind Regards Pam

Pamela
the marriage of Frank to Annie Tracey is correct in 1947 I have ordered marriage certificate . Frank and Annie had several children born from 10 years before they married. I don't have exact date of birth for Gertrude at the moment thanks again Pam

(it was that bit, but sounds confusing, as far as we know, F and Gert. only had the one)

Chris :)


Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911

ENSOR Frank CLARKE Gertrude Hyde, St Thomas Tameside CE29/3/31

Cheshire Birth indexes 1915

ENSOR Winifred Joyce (Mother Maiden Name) CLARKE 1915 Denton Tameside Cheshire DEN/55/18


Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1947

ENSOR Frank TRACEY Annie Hyde Civil Marriage Tameside


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

edits

http://www.azlibrary.gov/archives/famhistory.aspx

(think above would be able to help more, Arizona)

Ah........OK, I get you!

You know you say they had 'several' children. When I looked a few days back, I could swear I only saw one birth?

Chris, can you see a death for the Gertrude who is buried in Az?

Margee Report 27 Feb 2014 17:07
Do you have Frank's second marriage certificate? And does it say whether or not he's a widower?

Pamela has ordered above, but then it's stated Frank and Annie had several children born from 10 years before they married.

Sounds more confusing.

Chris :)

Chris

Am I missing something :-S

Which marriage certificate?

Lol Gins saw that one and wondered, and not seeing her with family in Mount Royal, so reckon that could well be!.

Marriage Cert. will be interesting!.

Chris :)

I've looked at this several times, I'm sick of looking, so here it is!



Web: Arizona, Find A Grave Index, 1861-2012

Name:Gertrude Ensor

Birth Date:1894

Age at Death:84

Death Date:1978

Burial Place:
Camp Verde, Yavapai County, Arizona, USA

URL:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Seems a lot of her family went to Canada, her sister as below.

Deaths Sep 1947 (>99%)
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Moore Emmeline 56 Manchester 10e 194


Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
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Clarke Gertrude Caddick Salford 8d 29

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Clarke Marie Caddick Salford 8d 5

(the above girls are daughters of Gordon and Evelyn)

Chris :)

thanks again for your help Pam

1901
CLARKE, Mary Elizabeth Head Married F 31 1870 Publican
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CLARKE, Emiline Daughter F 10 1891
Manchester, Lancashire
CLARKE, Gertrude Daughter F 9 1892
Manchester, Lancashire
CLARKE, Edward John Gordon Son M 6 1895
Oswestry, Shropshire
CLARKE, Winifred Daughter F 4 1897
Liverpool, Lancashire
JOSEPH, Alice Servant Widow F 45 1856 General Serv (Domestic)
Safwham, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 3413
Folio: 123
Page: 16
Registration District: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Municipal Borough:
Address: 18, Edmund Street, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

1911
CLARKE, Thomas Edward Head Married M 41 1870 Dock Labourer Shropshire Oswesty
CLARKE, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married20 years F 41 1870 Yorkshire Sheffield
CLARKE, Edward John Gordon Son Single M 16 1895 Apprentice Fitter Shropshire Oswestry
CLARKE, Thomas Bertram Son M 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool
JONES, John Henry Boarder Single M 28 1883 Dock Labourer Shropshire Oswestry
RG number: RG14
Piece: 24057
Reference: RG14PN24057 RG78PN1384 RD465 SD4 ED14 SN37
Registration District: Salford
Sub District: Regent Road
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Salford
Address: 25 St James St Salford
County: Lancashire
(6 children born, 4 living, 2 died)


1891
CLARKE, Thomas E Head Married M 21 1870 Screwer (MS&LRailway)
Oswestry, Shropshire
CLARKE, Mary E Wife Married F 21 1870
Sheffield, Yorkshire
CLARKE, Emiline Daughter F 0 (6M) 1891
Salford, Lancashire
Piece: 3259
Folio: 16
Page: 25
Registration District: Prestwich
Civil Parish: Bradford cum Beswick
Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: 82, George Street, Bradford Cum Beswick, Manchester
County: Lancashire


Thomas Edward Clarke
Birth: unknown
Death: Nov. 13, 1945
Burial:
Mount Royal Cemetery
Montreal
Montreal Region
Quebec, Canada

Thomas Bertram Clarke
Birth: unknown
Death: Nov. 7, 1943
Burial:
Mount Royal Cemetery
Montreal
Montreal Region
Quebec, Canada

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi


Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Gertrude Ensor abt 1892 Cronshaw Manchester 1924 Quebec Manchester, England Montcalm

Gertrude Ensor abt 1892 Openshaw Manchester Nov 1923 Quebec Salford, England Montclare

Thomas Edward Clarke abt 1870 Oswestry, England Nov 1923 Quebec Salford, England Montclare

(from names given on above, think family relates)

Chris :)


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name:John Douglas Moore
Birth Year:abt 1894
Age:29
Marriage Date:25 Aug 1923
Parish:Ordsall, St Cyprian Salford
Parish as it Appears:S Cyprian, Salford
Father's Name:Joseph William Moore
Spouse's Name:Emeline Chadwick
Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Edward Clarke
(Gertrude Ensor, witness)


Edward John Gordon Clarke
Birth Year:abt 1895 Age:25
Marriage Date:28 Feb 1920
Parish:Ordsall, St Cyprian Salford
Parish as it Appears:St Cyprian, Salford
Father's Name:Thomas Edward Clarke
Spouse's Name:Evelyn Caddick
Spouse's Father's Name:Joseph Caddick

(above her Brother Gordon)


Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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CHADWICK Cyril Stanley Salford 8d 125
CLARKE Emiline Salford 8d 125


Person:Gertrude ENSOR
Departure date:25 October 1923
Port of departure:Liverpool
Destination port:Montreal
Destination country:Canada
Ship:MONTCLARE

(on above Outgoing, Thomas and Mary Clarke also. 19, Lower Craven Street, Salford, for last UK address)


(no help with Gertrude Death, but an insight to her family!)

the marriage of Frank to Annie Tracey is correct in 1947 I have ordered marriage certificate . Frank and Annie had several children born from 10 years before they married. I don't have exact date of birth for Gertrude at the moment thanks again Pam

Do you have Frank's second marriage certificate? And does it say whether or not he's a widower?

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)
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Ensor Frank Tracey Hyde 10a 805
TRACEY Annie Ensor Hyde 10a 805

Do you have Gertrude' full DOB please?


This is the probate record for Frank, I think?



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Frank Ensor

Probate Date:3 Feb 1949

Death Date:9 Mar 1948

Death Place:Cheshire, England

Registry:Manchester, England

Probate to Annie Ensor - widow

If this is her she's still Gertrude Ensor in 1940:

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
about Mrs Gertrude Ensor Name: Mrs Gertrude Ensor
Gender: Female
Occupation: Matron
Year: 1940
Location: Saint Lawrence, Québec, Canada
Electoral District: St. Lawrence-St. George

thanks am checking out brothers of Frank, but still not finding out what happened to Gertrude or if she divorced and re married in Canada. Kind Regards Pam

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1921

ENSOR Harry QUIMBY Edith Agnes Hyde, St Thomas Tameside

Harry Ensor
Birth: 1900
Death: 1994
Husband of Agnes
Father of Ronald
Burial:
Forest Hill Cemetery Ann Arbor
Washtenaw CountyMichigan, USA

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

(Brother of Frank, together 1901 other 'Thread')

Chris :)

edits

Other Brother George W is back and forth as well.

hello again thanks to everyone for the help. Frank Ensor husband of Gertrude died in March 1948 in Manchester. . He re-married to Annie Tracey just a year before in 1947 but don't know any details of divorce from Gertrude I don't know if Gertrude re married and may be if she did that is why I cant find her death. Thanks Pam

They both appear here in 1968


Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980

Name:Mrs Frank-St Stephen Ensor

Gender:Female

Year:1968

Location:
Carleton; Charlotte, New Brunswick, Canada

Electoral District:Carleton-Charlotte

http://bibnum2.bnquebec.ca/bna/lovell/
1936-1937 Ensor Mrs Gertrude wid Frank 68 Fifth av Verdun
1936-1937 Dunn Mrs Winnifred 68 Fifth av Verdun
[looking at street index - no other names listed for that addy]

I'll leave you can check other years.

Verdun is a western suburb of Montreal. It occupies the central portion of the "island" formed by the Lachine Canal and the St Laurence R.

that is correct her father was Frank Ensor Kind Regards Pam