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Adam MORTON b.1826 Darvel SCO & Janet YOUNG to CAN

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Glenys

Glenys Report 20 Mar 2014 21:35

Thanks to all for your plentiful assistance with my MORTON Tree. Your help is truly wonderful and so much appreciated.

To followers of this thread I do know there is a daughter to Adam & Janet MORTON.

Jessie Clark MORTON married her cousin Andrew MORTON (son of Adam's eldest brother John MORTON) and they resided in England/Scotland. There was one son of the marriage and I have further details on this family.

I am not continuing with the WOODS line as my focus is on the MORTON's.

mgnv

mgnv Report 20 Mar 2014 18:49

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON PEEL (#103)
Subdistrict: Brampton (Town/Ville) A-1 Page 4
Image: View the image with: split screen
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6490
5 37 Woods William H M Head M Mar 18 1853 48
6 37 Woods Emma R F Wife M Mar 30 1854 47
7 37 Woods Jessie L F Daughter S Aug 28 1878 22
[On line 5, the value for the givens field is "William H", the suggested correction is "William W".]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093735.pdf
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000093735.pdf
[P4 L5 addy= Chapel & Peel St]

1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148163-00431.pdf

1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008186757.pdf

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMNJ-R31

1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1871/pdf/4396752_00355.pdf

1861
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108162_00251.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108162_00252.pdf

Glenys

Glenys Report 20 Mar 2014 08:47

Thanks Chris.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Mar 2014 07:29

Jessie Lye WOODS m. 28 Apr 1903 Peel County, Ontario CAN b. c1879 Brampton

(her Parents Marriage below 1877)

http://news.ourontario.ca/newmarket/114755/page/3


(Emma Ruth Tye, her Father George Tye (of the Brampton Times) worth a google)

http://www.ecbw.ca/brampton_bottles_&_collectables/brampton_times.htm

https://www.brampton.ca/EN/residents/Cemeteries/Documents/CemeteryWalkingTourMap.pdf

Chris :)


Emma Ruth Wood
[Emma Ruth Tye]
Death Date:11 May 1936
Death County or District:York
Death State:Ontario
Death Country:Canada Age:82
Gender:Female
Estimated birth year:abt 1854
Birth Location:Ontario
Father:George Tye


George Lye
Death Date:Apr 1905
Death County or District:Peel
Death State:Ontario
Death Country:Canada
Age:79
Gender:Male
Estimated birth year:abt 1826
Birth Location:England
(occupation, Newspapers)

edits (can you not get a trial for Ancestry, you really need to see info. on all images, there's quite a few relating, also the others from Leicester, England, relating to Jessie Clark Morton, including passenger lists)


1861
Brampton, Peel, Canada West
Film Number:C-1062
Page Number:6
Ruth Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1824 England
George Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1824 England (Publisher)
Luther W Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1847 Canada West
James C Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1851 Canada West
Emma R Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1855 Canada West
Edith M Tye Brampton, Peel, Canada West 1858 Canada West
Flay William (Printer. 25)
Dunby Sarah (Servant. 20)


Canada, Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, 1828-1910

James Caughey Tye 9 May 1852 Toronto, city, Home George, Ruth
Ruth Tye (Date of Birth) 30 Mar 1854 (Baptism Date) 22 Apr 1854 Toronto, Home George, Ruth
Clara Button Tye 18 Dec 1855 30 Mar 1856 Toronto, Home George, Ruth

Glenys

Glenys Report 19 Mar 2014 23:50

Thanks again Gins & mgnv.

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Mar 2014 22:15

Gins - thanks for doing that.

Your presumption is correct. However, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to find stated dob's in Canada - one can find them on b.certs, d.certs, gravestones, 1901 census, 1911 census (but day is missing - just month given), WW1 attestation papers. As you say, the age is often out by a year or 2, but it is very unusual to find the b'day changing (apart from the tear).

Gee

Gee Report 19 Mar 2014 17:27

The DOB is as the above: 12 March 1882, registered 27 Nov 1882

The name on the image is: Morton Woods Morton

I presume that census information in Canada is only as reliable as the information given, as here in the UK.

Ages are more often than not, out by a year or two, or even more

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Mar 2014 09:12

Gins - a dob 0f 12/11/1882 would give ages of 8/18 on the census, which is what we see. A dob of 12/3/1882 should give ages of 9/19. CAN YOU CHECK THE IMAGE on the b.cert, paying heed to any adjacent registrations if they're organized that way.

Gee

Gee Report 19 Mar 2014 08:14

Not sure where John G W comes from? The census you have just posted does not list him, it's Mort Morton


1901 Census of Canada

Age

J A Morton 52
Jessie H Morton 44
Mort W Morton 18 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ica Fay Morton 15
Eliza A Woods 80



If they had a son in March 1882, not sure they could have had another in Nov 1882


Name: Martin Mertin Woods <<<<Morton as on the 1901 census
Mother: Jessie Helena Woods
Father: Jasa Alexander Morton
Birth: 12 Mar 1882 - Huron



mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Mar 2014 07:12

Glenys - no he's not been found - check the image.

Glenys

Glenys Report 18 Mar 2014 21:28

Early morning of 19th here!

Thanks all for your input in this MORTON chase, we now seem to be going over some things again (and maybe getting the issue of the 2 brothers confused).. Sometime later this morning I'll repost this Family Tree with all the updates.

John G. W. MORTON has been found in the 1901 Census:

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON HURON (East/Est) (#73)
Subdistrict: Wingham (Town/Ville) G-2 Page 3

11 27 Morton J A M Head M Aug 14 1848 52
12 27 Morton Jessie H F Wife M Aug 31 1856 44
13 27 Morton John G W M Son S Nov 12 1882 18
14 27 Morton Ica Fay F Niece S Feb 17 1886 15
15 27 Woods Eliza A F Mother in Law W Jun 12 1820 80
9 Shuter St

mgnv

mgnv Report 18 Mar 2014 20:44

I should have checked the 1901 I posted more carefully:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000071544.pdf
As Gins has pointed out, there was no John G W Morton - he's really just a figment of the AG transcriber's making.

Re naturalization - it probably never happened.
On a technical note, pre-formation of the British commonwealth, there was no Canadian citizenship (nor Oz citizenship). Responsible colonies (like Canada, Oz, NZ, S Africa, Newfoundland) had citizenship courts, but these courts could only award British citizenship pre-commonwealth. Post-commonwealth, the Canadian courts could only award Canadian citizenship. There was a delay in legislation which left some Canadians stateless - they're still in this limbo. As you might infer, the Canadian government can be very frustrating - actually, frustrating enough to provoke 3 armed rebellions (1 successful). The first failed, and the ringleaders were transported to Oz dans un paysage étrange, to an area just outside of Sydney now known as Canada Bay (I think).

British citizenship thru the early 1970s depended solely on the citizenship of the father - the mother didn't count.

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 13:11

Ooo Margee...........I'm lost!

:-S

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Mar 2014 13:01

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
about Jessie Helena Woods Name: Jessie Helena Woods
Birth Place: United States NY State
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Father Name: Phelander Woods
Mother Name: Eliza Woods
Spouse Name: James Alex Morton
Spouse's Age: 30
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1850
Spouse Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse Father Name: Adam Morton
Spouse Mother Name: Janet Morton
Marriage Date: 5 May 1880
Marriage County or District: Peel


Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
about Jessie Lye Woods Name: Jessie Lye Woods
Birth Place: Brampton, Ontario
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Father Name: N N Woods
Mother Name: Emma R Lye Woods
Spouse Name: Adam Dyson Morton
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1875
Spouse Birth Place: Brampton, Ontario
Spouse Father Name: Robert Morton
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Trueman
Marriage Date: 28 Apr 1903
Marriage County or District: Peel


Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 12:32


1891 Census of Canada

Name:Morton W Morton

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Age:8

Birth Year:abt 1883

Birthplace:Ontario

Relation to Head of House:Son

Religion:Methodist

French Canadian:No

Father's Name:Jase Alx Morton

Father's Birth Place:Scotland

Mother's name:Jessie H Morton

Mother's Birth Place:United States

Province:Ontario

District Number:76

District:Huron East

Subdistrict:Wingham



Household Members:

Jase Alx Morton 42
Jessie H Morton 34
Morton W Morton 8
Elsie Sutherland 27




1921 Census of Canada

Name:Morton Morton

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Married

Age:38

Birth Year:abt 1883

Birth Place:Ontario

Relation to Head of House:Head

Spouse's Name:Lula Morton

Father Birth Place:Scotland

Mother Birth Place:USA

Racial or Tribal Origin:Scotch (Scotish)

Province or Territory:Ontario

District:Hamilton West

District Number:88

Sub-District:Ward No 3

Sub-District Number:10

City, Town or Village:Hamilton

Street or Township:86 Heckriver St

Municipality:Ward 3

Occupation:Manager

Income:6000


Household Members:


Morton Morton 38
Lula Morton 35










Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 12:31

I thought Jessie Woods married Adam (Herbert) Dyson Morton, yet on the birth for Morton W Morton (Woods) it gives the father as James Alex Morton


:-S

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Mar 2014 12:22

Looks like he's Mort. W. Morton on the 1901 census but birthdate is given as 12 Nov. 1882. parents are J.A. Morton and Jessie H. Eliza A. Woods is mother-in-law.

1901 Census of Canada
about Ica Fay Morton Name: Ica Fay Morton
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 15
Birth Day & Month: 17 Feb
Birth Year: 1886
Birthplace: MI
Relation to Head of House: Niece
Immigration Year: 1890
Racial or Tribal Origin: American
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Methodist
Province: Ontario
District: Huron (east/est)
District Number: 73
Sub-District: Wingham (Town/Ville)
Sub-District Number: G-2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
J A Morton 52
Jessie H Morton 44
Mort W Morton 18
Ica Fay Morton 15
Eliza A Woods 80



Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 11:52

Now, here's confusion!


Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913

Name:Martin Mertin Woods

Date of Birth:12 Mar 1882

Gender:Male

Birth County or District:Huron

Father's Name:Jasa Alexander Morton <<Barrister at law

Mother's name:Jessie Helena Woods

Archive Name:Archives of Ontario

Archive Series:MS929

Archive Reel:54

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Mar 2014 11:47

The name is Joy Fay on original here:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
about Icy Fay Morton Name: Icy Fay Morton
Death Date: 28 Sep 1936
Death County or District: York
Death State: Ontario
Death Country: Canada
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birth Location: Seint Michegan
Father: Robert E Morton
Mother: Jane Morton

She was born Flint, Michigan, daughter of Robert E Morton born Scotlandand Jane born Ontario. Informant was Adam Morton, brother. She died of cerebral haemorhage brought on by asthma.

Gee

Gee Report 18 Mar 2014 11:36

Hi Glenys

I'm totally confused over your last post :-S

'Why a name change from Herbert Adam MORTON to Adam Dyson MORTON? Would his (1891) death cert. give his date of birth rather than just his age? Curious as I cannot locate his death Herbert's cert. or any other info on him'

Herbert Adam Dyson Morton died in 1938

Full DOB 10th May 1874 as posted above


:-)