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I am trying to find anything on Thomas Robertson 1811 and Catherine Addison whose son was David Robertson 27/1/1856 born in Dundee.

I can't find anything on LDS. Please could someone check if there is a marriage for them or a date of birth for Catherine. I would be grateful for any help.

I guess you already have this?



Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name:David Robertson

Gender:Male

Birth Date:27 Jan 1856

Birth Place:
Dundee,Angus,Scotland

Father:
Thomas Robertson

Mother:
Catherine Addison

FHL Film Number:
6035516

I have yes thanks. I can't find any other children though. There was a William Robertson 1849 but I don't' know if it's the same family. I'm guessing it is.

You need the Scotland's People website which is pay to view
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

30 credits cost £7 - 1 credit gives the possibles, 5 credits a look at the certificate or parish record entry and you can then download.

Am not seeing anything obvious at present.

Have you got the family on a census which you can post?

Name: David Robertson
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 27 Jan 1856
Birthplace: DUNDEE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Robertson
Mother's Name: Catherine Addison
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11282-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516

I have got some credits left but don't know what to check. I have this census

1861

Name: Margaret Rutherford
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Korgandeeny, Perth
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: Dundee Second District
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 128 Overgate
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 60
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1861_40
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Rutherford 53
Catherine Adamson 21
Arthur Grassie 10
Elizabeth Brown 56
Catherine Fraser 23
John Cowie 3
David Robertson 6
Mary Cowie 45
Thomas Robertson 49

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Name: Robertson
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1851
Birthplace: DUNDEE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Death Date: 21 Jul 1851
Father's Name: Thomas Robertson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11973-2
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 993407

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Name: Pet Robertson
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1806-1915
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Dundee
Birth Year (Estimated): 1876

I had seen that census and wondered if Addison had been mixed up with Adamson anywhere along the line?????????? It's the only Thomas and DAvid Robertson of about the right age with a Catherine in the mix.

Yes maybe that's her Stuart. I didn't make the connection. I think I need to check out that census to get more details. Those were given to me by someone else so there may be more info on the census. Thanks

Thanks Ann.

I've just checked it and it doesn't give any relationships. So not much further on that. from LDS it seems Catherine Fraser was John Cowie's mum.

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1841 census transcription details for: Smiths Court, Smiths Court, Dundee
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 282
Book/Folio: 52
Page: 18
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Dundee
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Smiths Court, Smiths Court, Dundee
County: Forfarshire (Angus)
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
RUTHERFORD, James M 65 1776 Lab Scotland
RUTHERFORD, Margret F 30 1811 Scotland
RUTHERFORD, Christian F 20 1821 Scotland
RUTHERFORD, John M 20 1821 Iron Funder Ap Scotland
RUTHERFORD, Janet F 18 1823 Lint Spiner Scotland
RUTHERFORD, David M 16 1825 Scotland
>>ADDISON, Catherine F 8 1833 Scotland
JACK, Helen F 6 1835 Scotland
DUFF, Janet F 2 1839 Scotland




1851 census transcription details for: 7, Barron's Court, Barron's Court, Dundee
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 282
Folio: 179
Page: 19
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Dundee
Enum. District: 79
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Dundee
Address: 7, Barron's Court, Barron's Court, Dundee
County: Forfarshire (Angus)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RUTHERFORD, Margret Head Unmarried F 43 1808
Scone, Perthshire
???EARDSON, Cathrine Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Millworker Spinner
Blair Gowrie, Perthshire
CLIFF, Janet Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Millworker Spinner
Blair Gowrie, Perthshire
JACK, Helen Niece Unmarried F 14 1837 Millworker
Blair Gowrie, Perthshire
ELDER, Rachel Lodger Unmarried F 24 1827 Millworker
Edinburgh, Midlothian
NAIRN, Jess Lodger F 2 1849
Dundee, Forfarshire
CLARK, Cathrine Lodger Unmarried F 20 1831 Millworker
Montrose, Forfarshire
GRASSIE, Samuel Lodger Unmarried M 51 1800 Pauper Formly Scavenger
Ireland


1861 census transcription details for: Overgate, Dundee
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 282
Folio: 2610
Page: 13
Reg. District: (Dundee Parish 2nd) Alexander Leash
Sub District:
Parish: Dundee
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Overgate, Dundee
County: Forfarshire (Angus)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
RUTHERFORD, Margaret Head Widow F 53 1808
Forgandenny, Perthshire
ADAMSON, Catherine Unmarried F 21 1840 Millworker
Rattray, Perthshire
GRASSIE, Arthur M 10 1851
Dundee
BROWN, Elizabeth Widow F 56 1805
Stromness, Orkney
FRASER, Catherine Unmarried F 23 1838 Millworker
Dundee
COWIE, John M 2 1859
Dundee
ROBERTSON, David M 6 1855
Dundee
COWIE, Mary Unmarried F 45 1816
Spain B S
ROBERTSON, Thomas M 49 1812 Tinsmith
Perthshire

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1841 census transcription details for: Meal Vennel, Meal Vennel, Perth
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 387
Book/Folio: 6
Page: 23
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Perth
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Perth
Address: Meal Vennel, Meal Vennel, Perth
County: Perthshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROBERTSON, Thomas M 30 1811 Tin Smith Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Helen F 30 1811 Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Thomas M 12 1829 Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Ann F 10 1831 Perthshire
ROBERTSON, James M 7 1834 Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Betsy F 4 1837 Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Andrew M 1 1840 Perthshire


1851 census transcription details for: 74, South Street, Perth
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 387
Folio: 16
Page: 9
Reg. District: Perth
Sub District:
Parish: Perth
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Perth
Address: 74, South Street, Perth
County: Perthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTSON, Thomas Head Married M 44 1807 Tin Smith
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Hellen Wife Married F 43 1808
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, James Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Rope Spinner
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Betsy Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Andrew Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Scholar
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Alexander Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar
Perth, Perthshire
ROBERTSON, Hellen Daughter Unmarried F 1 1850
Perth, Perthshire

thanks alviegal, I'll have a closer look at this this evening. :-)

These census records look familiar. I'm sure we worked on this family before as I remember looking up Margaret Rutherford and Samuel Grassie before. Perhaps someone can find the other thread .... If it hasn't been deleted. Meanwhile I'll have a look for it.

This is the other thread with information of Catherine's mother and her family.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1249394


Catherine was still unmarried in 1881?

1881 Census

Name: Margaret Rutherford
Age: 73
Estimated birth year: abt 1808
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Forgandenny, Perthshire
Registration Number: 282/3
Registration district: St Clement
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Rattrays Entry
Occupation: Sack Sewer
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 374
Line: 8
Roll: cssct1881_84
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Rutherford 73
Catherine Edison 48 Daughter
William H Garland 16 Grandson, Millworker
Ann McIntyre 35 Boarder



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Name: Katharine Rutherford
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Nov 1833
Christening Place: RATTRAY,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Rutherford
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11389-6
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1040135
Reference ID:


It may be worth checking the original image on Scotlandspeople for that a birth as it may give a little more information. It may also be worth tracking down the Kirk Session minutes for Rattray as they may hold details of the father of the child.


This appears to be the only Addison family in Rattray around the correct time. Remember ages were rounded down to multiples of 5 for the peurpose of the 1841 census.

1841

Name: Billy Addison
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Rattray
County: Perthshire
Address: Bramble Bank
Parish Number: 389
Household Members:
Name Age
James Addison 50
Margret Addison 50
Billy Addison 20
Janet Stran 20
Hellen Bodon 20
Alexander Haggans 20


The National Archives of Scotland hold Rattray Parish Records.


Reference Title Date

CH2 Records of Church of Scotland synods, presbyteries and kirk sessions 1569-2006

Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Records of Scotland
Reference CH2/525
Title Records of Rattray Kirk Session
Dates 1656-1900
Access status Open

Location On site

Level Fonds


Admin history The Parish of Rattray originally formed a prebend belonging to the Sub-Dean of Dunkeld. Ministry of the church is recorded from 1574 in the person of Donald Cargill. In 1946, following the 1929 union of the Church of Scotland and the United Free Church, Rattray Parish Church was united with the former United Free congregation of Rattray East. After the local union both churches remained in use. In 1988 the parish of Kirkmichael, Straloch and Glenshee was linked with Rattray. Rattray Kirk Session sat within the Presbytery of Dunkeld, later of Meigle and it presently sits within the Presbytery of Dunkeld and Meigle.

You could use credits on Scotlandspeople to look at this

14/11/1833 RUTHERFORD KATHARINE /MARGARET RUTHERFORD F RATTRAY /PERTH 389/00 0050 0026

Thank you. I found searching the kirk records really hard and didn't find anything. I will check out on Scotslandpeople.

birth for Katharine Rutherford shows:

Margaret Rutherford at East Mill had her daughter baptized, her brother George in the parish of Scone, being ? Katharine.

So it doesn't show a dad and I don't know if this means Katharine had a brother George as I can't find anything on LDS for him.

Since Katherine / Catherine Used the surname Addison / Edison it is almost certain that she knew who her father was. Have you found her death registration please? It is possible that that will give her father's name, if the informant knew his details.