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Always wondered what happened to my ancestors's siblings. My ancestor Sarah was the daughter of Michael Naylor and Sarah Hewett. I think she was the eldest daughter born in 1819.

I think Michael and Sarah had three other children: Joseph (born 1821), Thomas born 1825 and Hannah born bat 1827. It's these three children that I seem to have little on.

Hannah was baptised in Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George, Lancashire, England on Dec 10 1827.

She was 10 on the 1841 census living at 3 Bedale Street, Hulme, Lancashire. I don't know what happens to her after that :

Name: Hannah Naylor
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 583
Book: 14
Folio: 14
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Naylor 45
Sarah Anne Naylor 20
Hannah Naylor 10

Joseph was born on 14 or 19th Aug 1821 and christened on 23 Sep 1821 at Saint John Deansgate, Manchester, Lancashire. Again, I don't know what happens to him.

Thomas was baptised on 11 Mar 1825 at Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George, Lancashire, England.

Their father Michael dies in 1835. Their mother Sarah is living/visiting their daughter Sarah in 1851 so no sign of the siblings there and she dies in 1860.

Their sister Sarah dies in 1862 and their is no sign of the siblings on any of her census records before her death either.

Any help appreciated.

(If I don't answer immediately - I'll be nipping in and out of this thread today)

Thanks

Hi

Is this the parents marriage?



Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name:Sarah Hewitt

Marriage Date:8 Mar 1819

Parish:Manchester, St John

Parish as it Appears:
Manchester, St John

Spouse's Name:
Michael Naylor

Reference Number:
GB127.M403/6/3/5

Looks like Hannah married twice



Marriages Dec 1850


Edge Samuel Manchester 20 654
Naylor Hannah Manchester 20 654


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930


Name:Hannah Edge <<Widow

Birth Year:abt 1831

Age:24

Marriage Date:20 Dec 1855

Parish:Manchester, St John

Parish as it Appears:Manchester

Father's Name:Michael Naylor <<Master Dealer

Spouse's Name:Henry Nine Gorse <<Carter

Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Gorse <<Porter

Reference Number:GB127.M403/6/3/27

Wit: George Plant & Emma Brough

Thanks Gins. Yes, that's their marriage.

Michael was a cotton dealer or Cotton waste and weft dealer. He was born about 1780 but I don't know who his parents were.

Michael lived or had businesses in
1819 Parish of Manchester
1820 Salford
1821 5 Edge Place, Salford, Manchester, Lancashire, England
1822 26 High Street, Salford, Manchester, Lancashire, England
1824-1825 1 Bank Place, Bank Street, Salford, Manchester, Lancashire, England
1828 Marsland, Naylor (and weft), 37 High Street, Manchester, England
and he was listed as being from Hulme on his burial records in 1835 aged 55

Thank you so much Gins, that is fantastic! :-D

You're welcome

I'll not bore you with the census details of Hannah as you seem to have access yourself


:-)

Thanks yes I do! I really do appreciate this. I always wondered what happened to her! and I don't know why I couldn't find that record. Thanks :-D :-D :-D :-D

There is also a death in Manchester in 1839 for a Thomas Naylor

That may explain why he disappeared off the census. I haven't done a lot of research on him. I only found him relatively recently as I didn't know anything about him until then.

I was never sure about Joseph though. In my notes, I did find a Joseph who was a wood carver but I wasn't sure whether it was him or not.

Wonder if this could be Joseph as a lodger and Wood Carver on the 1881?


1881 England Census about Joseph Naylor
Name: Joseph Naylor ******UNMARRIED
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 39 Tickle

Occupation: Wood Carver
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3989
Folio: 78
Page Number: 61

1851 England Census about Joseph Naylor
Name: Joseph Naylor
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Saint Jude
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:CABINET CARVER

Condition as to marriage: MARRIED********

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 1bb
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2226
Folio: 101
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Cooper 23
James Cooper 4
John Cooper 2
Joseph Naylor 30



Again in 1861 a lodger but this time it says he is married.


1861 England Census about Joseph Naylor
Name: Joseph Naylor
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:CABINET CARVER*******************

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 2940
Folio: 19
Page Number: 31

Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915


Name:Joseph Naylor

Birth Date:19 Aug 1821

Age:0

Baptism Date:23 Sep 1821

Parish:Manchester, St John

Parish as it Appears:
Manchester, St John

Father's Name:
Michael Naylor <<<<? Dealer

Mother's name:
Sarah Naylor

Reference Number:
GB127.M403/6/2/2

Thanks, it does say married so there should be a marriage somewhere confirming his father hopefully

This seems to be the second marriage of the Cabinet Carver and it says his father is Samuel.


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral) about Joseph Naylor
Name: Joseph Naylor WIDOWER*******
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1821
Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1849
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: Samuel Naylor****************
Spouse's Name: Ann Weaver
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Father's Name: John Weaver
Archive Roll: 717

Ahh so it's not him!

Thanks Gins and Mel for this :)

Found this first marriage after Gin's guidance. Looks like her name was mistranscribed

Name: Samuel Edge
Age: Full
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1850
Parish: Manchester, St John
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father's Name: John Edge
Spouse's Name: Hannah Naylon
Reference Number: GB127.M403/6/3/23

On that marriage of Hannah to Samuel Edge under her fathers name has written Not Stated!!!!!!!!!

Witnesses were Robert and Elizabeth Williams.

Her address is Park St Hulme.

Samuel's address Devonshire St Hulme and father aslo an Engraver John Edge.

Second marriage has father Michael Naylor Waste Dealer not Master Dealer that Gins put.

Thanks He was a cotton waste dealer so that ties in,

I can't find Hannah on the 1851 census. Samuel Edge had died on the 27th of consumption and was buried on the 30th which was the time of the census. Also the 1851 census records for Hulme were badly damaged so the transcriptions aren't perfect. She should be living at 22 Chatham Street, Hulme, Lancashire, England

It looks as though Hannah died in 1867 although can't seem to find her burial records.

On her marriage to Henry Vine Gorse in 1855 her address is the same as his 9 Thomas St, Hulme.