Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

HELP PLEASE!

Page 0 + 1 of 2

  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. »
ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Elliot

Elliot Report 24 Mar 2014 23:46

Could anyone tell me, who lived at 37 Irene Road, Fulham, on the 1911 census?
I'm looking for the surname 'Fowler'.

Any help would be much appreciated!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2014 23:51

I'm afraid it is a family called Clarke:-

1911 Census transcription details for: 37 Irene Road
National Archive Reference: RG14PN348 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED11 SN319
Reg. District: Fulham
Sub District: South Fulham
Parish: Fulham
Enum. District: 11

Address: 37 Irene Road
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

CLARKE, George Albert Head Married
15 years M 39 1872 Postman Norfolk Roydon
CLARKE, Sarah Wife Married
15 years F 40 1871 Norfolk Garboldisham
CLARKE, Frederick George Son M 6 1905 Norfolk Garboldisham
CLARKE, Harold James Son M 5 1906 London Fulham
CLARKE, Mabel Lilian Rose Daughter F 2 1909 London Fulham

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2014 23:52

Do you have any first names?

Kath. x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Mar 2014 23:52


1911 England Census

Name: Sarah Rose Kelly
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chelsea
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 37 Irene Road, Parsons Green S W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Fulham

Charles Alfred Kelly 40
Sarah Rose Kelly 37
Phoebe Rose Sheppard 13
Frederick Charles Fulford Kelly 7
Rose Hannah Green 50

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Mar 2014 23:57

Both families are at the same address. They probably rented rooms.

Kath. x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Mar 2014 07:56

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

(not seeing on above)

Chris :)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Mar 2014 08:13

What connects the name with the address?

Do you have documentation? If so, what is the date?

Elliot

Elliot Report 1 Apr 2014 20:20

Hi guys! Sorry for the late response :-/

It's a bit of a complicated one I'm afraid!

37 Irene Road, Fulham, is the address given by my grandfathers, stepfather, on my grandfathers war records. My grandfather lived in the next road, Ackmar Road. I think his stepparents were some kind of foster family. But I'm struggling with all this.

My grandfather was Alan Leeds, I know about his 'real' family, but not about his step family. I know he had two stepsisters called Lily and Gladys Hillier. The step family's name was 'Fowler'.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Apr 2014 20:29

Hello Elliot - was this WW1 or WW2 records?

Elliot

Elliot Report 1 Apr 2014 21:56

Hi Marie! :-)

It was WW2!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Apr 2014 22:19

So 1939-45....................a long time after 1911

You say the step-sisters were Hillier......so what is the connection with Fowler?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Apr 2014 22:46

Elliot, I think it's improbable that the family were at the same address in 1911 as they would have been in WW2.

Was a first name given for the stepfather?

Is it possible that your grandfather's mother may have remarried - I think that would be the more usual reason to have a stepfather. Who was Alan's father and when did he die?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Apr 2014 22:48

Is this by any chance your grandfather?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alan Leeds
Birth Date: abt 1921
Date of Registration: Mar 1965
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: Surrey Northern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 499

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Apr 2014 22:56

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Leeds Alan Leeds Milton 2a 2216

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Apr 2014 23:02

What was the FULL name of the step-father?

Elliot

Elliot Report 2 Apr 2014 00:09

Thanks all!

Reggie: The 'Step sisters' were born with the surname Hillier (Mothers surname was Copson). The document I have, is part of my Grandads war records, it is a Statement of services and is a bit of an enigma in itself, as it is completely blank aside from stating my Grandads next of kin. Originally, it said 'Step father (Something illegible) Fowler, 37 Irene Road, Fulham'. This has been crossed out and replaced with 'Step sister, Miss. L. fowler, 15 Ackmar Road, Fulham'. She was Lily, my dad remembers her as 'Aunt Lil', he also remembers her sister 'Aunt Glad'.

Marie: I can't read the step fathers first name, as it has been crossed out :-(

Both: Yes! That's my grandad! His mum (Matilda May Leeds) did remarry, to a man named Frederick Rogers and they had two sons, Frederick and Philip. I can trace my family back from Matilda May, but what happened with my grandad remains a mystery. He was born in Milton Regis Workhouse, there was no father on his birth cert. The story always was, that his mum 'gave him away' to a family that lived down the road. Grandad died when my dad was 13, so I've had to work pretty hard to find out all the information so far. But I really want to know who took him in and why?

I've been able to piece things together so far, through my dad's memory. But I'm stuck with this. I wish I could see the 1921 census, now! Lol!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2014 08:01

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
HILLIER Lily F S Copson Southwark 1d 149
Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
Hillier Frederick G Copson Southwark 1d 116
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Hillier Gladys Copson Southwark 1d 131
Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Hillier Cissie R Copson Southwark 1d 77
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Hillier Alfred G Copson Southwark 1d 95
Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Hillier Joseph H Copson Southwark 1d 94

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2014 08:04

Marriages Mar 1937 (>99%)
Harris Frederick H Hillier Southwark 1d 153
Hillier Lily F S Harris Southwark 1d 153

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2014 08:07

How does 'Miss' Fowler fit in with the BMD info?

Perhaps some kind person with Ancestry access will be willing to look at the ER's for 1937/8

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2014 08:15

Death
Name: HARRIS, Lily Florence S
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
County: Surrey
Year of registration: 1986
Month of registration: March
Date of Birth:7 October 1912
Volume no: 17
Page no: 1193
Reg no: 386