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Edmond's first wife Charlotte Jones was an Indo Briton. If the same were true of Margaret, and there seems to be no evidence either way, then that could account for any 'Indian' looks Alice may have had, if Margaret were her biological mother, rather than the adoptive mother of family legend.

If Edmond is the father of Alice by a Maharajah's daughter, then he was playing away from home very early in the marriage, as he only married Margaret on 11th Nov 1840, and Alice was born 18th Dec 1841, and baptised as Edmond and margaret's daughter on 1st Jan 1842.

A very special THANK YOU ! to all who have taken the time and effort to contribute to my inquiry

Ted M

There are some trees on ancestry with photos. Striking one of Mary Jane Clarkson Heath Fuller.

Well done Kucinta. I had received this from Ted so he did know Margaret's maiden name but good sleuthing.

Thank you for the information supplied
Alice Clarkson B 1841 is the one.
Edmond Cooper Clarkson is Edmond Clarkson's son by his third wife Phoebe Cooper M 1846.

Alice Clarkson, family legend say that she was adopted by Edmond's wife Margaret Laurence, she was the daughter of an Indian Maharajah born in Madras.
No information as yet can be found about her mother

Photos of her confirm the Indian connection.

Eureka!!!!!!!!!!!

Think I've finally found Edmund's marriage to Margaret, mother of Alice, though Ted probably already knows this.

Edmund is called Edward here, but on the image he is 'Edward Clarkson**** Sergt Major 40th Regt N I *******widow.

Margaret was a spinster, and surname is Lawrence on the image:

Bride's Forename Margaret
Bride's Surname Lawrewnce
Bride's Age -
Groom's Forename Edward
Groom's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Age -
Year Of Marriage 1840
Date Of Marriage 11 Nov 1840
Place Calcutta
Presidency Bengal
Bride's Father's Forename -
Bride's Father's Surname -
Groom's Father's Forename -
Groom's Father's Surname -
Archive Reference N-1-57
Folio No. 100
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces

I didn't find any trace of Alice's full brother, William Edmond Clarkson in the India records after his birth, nor was I able to identify a marriage or death in India for Thomas Clarkson born 1839,second son of that name of Edmund and first wife Charlotte.

Daur Mary Jane by Phebe Cooper married in India:

Bride's Forename Mary Jane
Bride's Surname Clarkson
Bride's Age 15
Groom's Forename John
Groom's Surname Heath
Groom's Age 27
Year Of Marriage 1866
Date Of Marriage 21 Nov 1866
Place Cannanore
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename Edmund
Bride's Father's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Father's Forename James
Groom's Father's Surname Heath
Archive Reference N-2-47
Folio No. 420
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces

James Heath was a Sergt, but it's hard to read details of his unit, could be 102, 107 or 109th Regt and the rest I can't decipher.

Edmund's daur Esther by Phebe married:

Bride's Forename Esther
Bride's Surname Clarkson
Bride's Age 18
Groom's Forename James Edmond Foster
Groom's Surname Vincent
Groom's Age 20
Year Of Marriage 1875
Date Of Marriage 9 Jun 1875
Place Madras John Pereira's Trinity Chapel
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename E
Bride's Father's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Father's Forename J D
Groom's Father's Surname Vincent
Archive Reference N-2-8
Folio No. 9
Catalogue Description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884, :
Entry No. -

James E F Vincent was a stoker on the railway.

EDIT: Son Edmond Cooper Clarkson (by Phebe )'s marriage to Agnes Caroline Vincent in 1874 had already been posted by alviegal. The FMP version of the marriage shows Agnes' father to be James Davis Vincent, so given James Edmond Foster Vincent's father is J D Vincent, it looks like a Clarkson brother and sister married a Vincent sister and brother.

Marriage for daur Emma Ann by Phebe:

Bride's Forename Emma Ann
Bride's Surname Clarkson
Bride's Age 18
Groom's Forename Robert
Groom's Surname Spooner
Groom's Age 26
Year Of Marriage 1868
Date Of Marriage 19 Feb 1868
Place Kamptee
Presidency Bengal
Bride's Father's Forename Edmund
Bride's Father's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Father's Forename Robert
Groom's Father's Surname Spooner
Archive Reference N-1-123
Folio No. 89
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
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Robert Spooner was Acting Bombadier C Battery 14th Brigade Royal Artillery.

Looking at the images of the baptisms of the children of Edmund Clarkson and Phenbe Cooper, it looks like Edmund was pensioned off sometime between the birth of Esther in 1856, and the birth of Ellen in 1859.

For Esther and the other children he is described as Garrison Sergt Major, but as previously stated in the birth and Death of Ellen, and death of wife Phebe. he is Pensioned Sergt Major.

This might be a complete red herring as you don't say where Edmund is born, but we know he said at his 1846 marriage to Phebe Cooper his father was Edmund Clarkson blacksmith of Preston, Yorkshire (deceased).

Edmund was supposedly aged 39 in 1846, but he was marrying an 18 yr old so may have been flexible with his age....

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Edmund Clarkson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Sep 1802
Christening Place: WENSLEY,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edmd. Clarkson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00920-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 207590
Reference ID:

Wensley is very close to a place called Preston under Scar.

Edmund certainly got through a number of wives!!!!!!!


Bride's Forename Mary
Bride's Surname Hopwood
Bride's Age 41
Groom's Forename Edmund
Groom's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Age 51
Year Of Marriage 1859
Date Of Marriage 9 Nov 1859
Place Vepery
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename Richard
Bride's Father's Surname Franklin
Groom's Father's Forename Edmund
Groom's Father's Surname Clarkson
Archive Reference N-2-40
Folio No. 294
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages

Edmund is a widower, a pensioned Segt Major and his bride is a widow.

His daughter Ellen by 3rd wife Phebe was only born on 6th April 1859, so Edmund didn't hang about!

Phebe's death:

First Name Phebe
Last Name Clarkson
Date of Death 17 Apr 1859
Date Of burial 18 Apr 1859
Year Of Birth 1823
Age 36
Place Pursewalkum Vepery, Saint Matthias
Presidency Madras
Archive Reference N-2-11
Folio -
Page 12
Catalogue Description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884, :
Record set British India Office deaths & burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials

Wife of Edmund Clarkson, retired Sergt Major. Cause of death was Remittent fever.

The infant Ellen rapidly followed her mother to the grave:

irst Name Ellen
Last Name Clarkson
Date of Death 20 Apr 1859
Date Of burial 21 Apr 1859
Year Of Birth 1844
Age 15
Place Vepery
Presidency Madras
Archive Reference N-2-40
Folio -
Page 103
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials

Daur of Edmund Clarkson pensioned Sergt Major and Phebe his wife. Cause of death is hard to read but might be weekness (sic)

Looks like Edmund had at least 3 wives....

This child is his by a wife named Charlotte:

First Name Thomas Clarkson
Last Name Clarkson
Date Of Baptism 6 Oct 1839
Date Of Birth 02 Oct 1839
Father's First Name Edmund
Mother's First Name Charlotte
Place Moulmein
Presidency -
Father's Last Name Clarkson
Mother's Last Name -
Archive Reference N-1-53
Folio 218
Page -
Catalogue Description -
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms

Image shows father Edmund to be a Sergt Major in the 40th M N I

They seem to have also had a previous short lived child of the same name:

Name: Thomas Clarkson
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 02 Nov 1838<<<<<<<<<<
Burial Place: Moulmein, Bengal, India
Death Date: 1838
Death Place:
Age: 0
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1838<<<<<<<<
Birthplace:
Occupation: Child
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Edmond Clarkson
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B39313-6
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 498975
Reference ID:

This seems likely to be Edmund and Charlotte's marriage:

Bride's Forename Charlotte
Bride's Surname Jones
Bride's Age -
Groom's Forename Edmond
Groom's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Age -
Year Of Marriage 1837
Date Of Marriage 6 Dec 1837
Place St Thomas Mount St Thomas
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename -
Bride's Father's Surname -
Groom's Father's Forename -
Groom's Father's Surname -
Archive Reference N-2-8
Folio No. 89
Catalogue Description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884, :
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages

Edmond Clarkson Bachelor Corporal in the 2nd Battalion Artillery and Charlotte Jones spinster of St Thomas Mount Indo Briton were married by banns...

Another child for Edmund and Margaret:

First Name William Edmond
Last Name Clarkson
Date Of Baptism 22 Nov 1843
Date Of Birth 22 Sep 1843
Father's First Name Edmund
Mother's First Name Margaret
Place Poonamallee
Presidency -
Father's Last Name Clarkson
Mother's Last Name -
Archive Reference N-2-C4
Folio 63
Page -
Catalogue Description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms

Edmund and Margaret had at least one other child apart from Alice:

First Name Sophia
Last Name Clarkson
Date Of Baptism 25 Dec 1845
Date Of Birth 13 Mar 1845
Father's First Name Edmund
Mother's First Name Margaret
Place Madras
Presidency Madras
Father's Last Name Clarkson
Mother's Last Name -
Archive Reference N-2-24
Folio 378
Page -
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms

Sophia's marriage:

Bride's Forename Sophia
Bride's Surname Clarkson
Bride's Age 19
Groom's Forename John
Groom's Surname Peters
Groom's Age 21
Year Of Marriage 1864
Date Of Marriage 22 Jun 1864
Place Wellington
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename Edmund
Bride's Father's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Father's Forename Joseph
Groom's Father's Surname Peters
Archive Reference N-2-45
Folio No. 125
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages

John Peters was a fifer in the 44th M N I . They were bachelor and spinster.

Re the 1857 marriage of Richard H art and Alice Clarkson that Ann C posted, Richard was a bachelor and a private in the M 43rd (illegible initial) I

Presumably the something something Infantry, but not sure what the second initial was.

Possibly the Madras Native Infantry? But I'm guessing here.

You probably have this already

Edmund remarried in 1846:

Bride's Forename Phebe
Bride's Surname Cooper
Bride's Age 18
Groom's Forename Edmund
Groom's Surname Clarkson
Groom's Age 39
Year Of Marriage 1846
Date Of Marriage 2 Sep 1846
Place Poonamallee
Presidency Madras
Bride's Father's Forename Thomas
Bride's Father's Surname Cooper
Groom's Father's Forename Edmund
Groom's Father's Surname Clarkson
Archive Reference N-2-8
Folio No. 66
Catalogue Description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884, :
Entry No. -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Record says he was a widower, aged 39, a Garrison Sergeant major of Poonamallee and the son of Edmund Clarkson blacksmith of Preston, Yorkshire (deceased).

Phebe Cooper was an 18 yr old spinster from the Military O. Asylum {O for orphan's? ) daur of Thomas Cooper pensioner ??? 55th Regt (deceased)

Familysearch (free site mentioned earlier in thread):

https://familysearch.org/search

has several baptisms for children of Edmund and Phebe, namely Mary Jane, Edmund Cooper Clarkson, Esther Clarkson , Ellen Clarkson and Emma Ann Clarkson. Presumably the son Edmund Cooper Clarkson is the same one who appears earlier in this thread.

Ted

For future reference, when you ask for help, please remember that it is essential to give dates

It is also worth noting that all of the birth and marriage detail provided above seems to be taken from the familysearch site, which is completely free to everyone

You could, therefore, have found it yourself, if you'd known about the site

here's the link................

https://familysearch.org

The Indian Mutiny Medal Roll (British Forces) 1857-1859.

Richard Hart
Rank Private
Regiment or Ship 43rd Foot (Monmouthshire Light Infantry)


http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_person_search.php

(from above link, Regiment given on 1857 Marriage image, Find My Past)

Chris :)

Hello Ann
Thank you for the information on Richard Hart and Alice Clarkson
Yes they are part of Edmond Clarkson's family.
My response being delayed, 25 April is ANZAC day in NZ & Australia, a day when we pay tribute to our fallen war comrades.