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Hi All,
Richard married Julia Stella in 1860 West London and had (3) three children:
Stella Maria b. 1859 baptised 1860 St. Albans Hertford
Lawrence John b. 1862 Ongar- Bobbingworth- Essex
Thompson Fairfax b. 1866. Reigate Union-Reigate-Surrey

In 1867 Julia Stella Smith (why not Webster) married John Thomas Jocelyn (Josling) and I believe Julia changed her children's names to Jocelyn.

On the b.cert. of Lawrence his father R.Webster was a Commercial Traveller
On the b.cert. of Thompson his father R.Webster was a schoolmaster

Julia Stella Smith was born in Bradford, Yorkshire

I'm searching for birth,death certs. for Richard Webster but to no avail.
My fathers middle name is Thompson. Always wondered why Thompson not Thomas
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Mal

I think you're missing a child, on 15/7/1866 Thompson Fairfax was christened, along with Russell Fletcher Webster age 2.5years. The address given was Chigwell House, Redhill, and fathers occupation states "gentleman" christened at St Matthews, Redhill.

Maria Stella.......

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Maria Stella Webster
Name: Maria Stella Webster
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Apr 1860
Baptism Place: Abbey,Saint Albans,Hertford,England
Father: Richard Webster
Mother: Julia Stella
FHL Film Number: 991391

Misty x

Dry Salter given for Occ. 1860 Herts. Baptism image (FMP)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drysalter

Chris :)

Richard was a merchant according to his marriage "full age" and a widower, but as he is not with Julia on the 1861 census it's difficult to know his age and place of birth.

Julia was recorded as married in 1861, and a widow in 1871 so second husband didn't live long after their marriage.

3rd marriage?

FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Julia Stella Jocelyn

Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 441
Records on Page:
Name
Julia Stella Jocelyn
John Oxford
Florence Ada C Rogers
Joe Crocker Stephens

Misty x

the 'school for ladies' which in 1866 was run by Mrs. Julia Webster.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=15636

(Chipping Ongar: Schools', A History of the County of Essex)

(as 1861)

Chris :)

I wonder if this was Richards first marriage....

Occ....Merchant

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns
Name: Richard Webster
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 19 Jul 1841
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: James Webster
Spouse's Name: Sarah Clayton
Spouse's Father's Name: John Clayton

Misty x

Bradford Observer 10 October 1867

Josling - Smith
Oct. 6th, at South Hackney Church, Mr. John Thomas Josling, of Roxwell, to Julia Stella Smith, sixth daughter of Mr. John Smith, engineer, of Bradford.

Chris :)

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921

Name:John Thomas Josling (Bachelor)
Age:21 (upwards of)
Birth Year:abt 1846
Event Date:5 Oct 1867
Parish:St Mary Le Bow
County:London
Spouse's Name:Julia Stella Smith (Spinster)
Spouse's Age:21 (upwards of)
Spouse's Parish:South Hackney
Event Type:Allegation

Looks promising girls :-)

I'm deleting my post above as its clearly not him

Mistycat's 1895 marriage looks right - she married John Oxford, they are on 1901 census - Julia born Bradford, but she's taken 10 years off her age!

I know it doesn't help with Richard.....

1901 England Census about Julia Oxford
Name: Julia Oxford
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: John Oxford
Birth Place: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Isleworth St John the Baptist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1183
Folio: 100
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Oxford 53
Julia Oxford 55
Oscar Sweet 12
Russel Jocelyn 38

Misty x

On 25/7/1842 there was a multiple christening at Leeds parish church - father was John Smith, Iron founder - abode Bradford:

All with mother the late Mary
Cordilia b 25/7/1825
Maria b 19/5/32
Julia no dob
Louisa no dob

Adele b 28/2/1842 - mother Sarah. She is with sister Julia on the 1861 census

http://www.ancientfaces.com/photo/richard-webster-sr/358355

(1841 Marriage comes up on google, other items)

Chris :)

On the Bradford marriage, it says he lived in Dublin at the time

So probably not him, if Chris's link is correct - they celebrated their golden wedding in 1891!

Could this be Richards death?

Deaths Jun 1865

WEBSTER Richard Battle Ongar 4a 51

Misty x

EDIT....This is rubbish please ignore!!!!

I think this might be Sarah just before the marriage. Father is listed as a Wool Stapler which is someone trading in wool. The marriage has her father as a Wool Merchant



1841 England Census

Name:Sarah Clayton

Age:15

Estimated birth year:abt 1826

Gender:Female

Where born:Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish:Bradford

Hundred:Morley

County/Island:Yorkshire

Registration district:Bradford

Sub-registration district:Horton


Piece:1296

Book:5

Folio:32

Page Number:15

Household Members:

John Clayton 45
Sarah Clayton 15
Thomas Clayton 15
John Clayton 15
Martha Clayton 9
Emma Clayton 7



1851 England Census

Name:Sarah Webster

Age:27

Estimated birth year:abt 1824

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Richard Webster

Gender:Female

Where born:Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish:Chapel Allerton

County/Island:Yorkshire

Registration district:Hunslet

Sub-registration district:Chapeltown

ED, institution, or vessel:2c


Household schedule number:152

Piece:2316

Folio:112

Page Number:39

Household Members:

Richard Webster 40 <<Hull
Sarah Webster 27
Robt Webster 8 <<<<<<<<Dublin
Sarah Amelia Webster 5
Mary Rachel Webster 9
Thomas John Webster 7 Mo
John Webster 45
J C Webster 17
Martha Clayton 19
Emma Clayton 17
Edwin Haigh 20
C W Haigh 19
Phoebe Frawley 19
Caroline Jowett 21






England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:Richard Webster

Gender:Male

Birth Date:19 Jan 1804

Birth Place:Hull, York, England

Father:
James Webster

Mother:
Rachel Webster

FHL Film Number:828132

Reference ID:
RG4/3388 p86

I've added to the above census.

Note that son Robert was born in Dublin, this ties in with father Richard, giving his address on the marriage to Julia as Dublin

I think Richard & Sarah are in Jersey in 1881/91 - he is a retired leather merchant. I wonder if he was naughty and married Julia bigamously, but got back with wife? Can't spot them 1861/71 though, although 2 of the children are with an aunt in Derbyshire.

Hence her reverting to maiden name on second marriage and stating she was single - if the first marriage wasn't legal, then she gave the correct status.