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Anthonys of Chilbolton,hampshire

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milton

milton Report 7 May 2014 10:49

Trying to get definitive confirmation from records I have.
My gg grandfather Alfred Anthony married Sarah Knight in Chilbolton 1842 before migrating to New Zealand..His marriage certificate lists James ,a tailor as father and Mark Anthony as witness.
I also have death certificate records for a James Anthony,(Tailor) and his wife,Jemiima interestingly both recorded as 26-11-1858 .
Are the latter two parents of Alfred ? If so can anyone assist with other links /ancestors of this family.

Thanks
Milt

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 10:58

Married in 1842 or was baptised in 1842??

??
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Alfred Anthony Name:Alfred Anthony
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:12 Mar 1842
Baptism Place:Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Father: James Anthony
Mother: Jemima
FHL Film Number:6358807
Reference ID:yr 1813-1889 p 41

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:06

Dates mean it Can't be the same Alfred

Marriages Mar 1842

ANTHONY Alfred Andover 7 59
ANTHONY Ann Andover 7 59
BATT John Andover 7 59
KNIGHT Sarah Andover 7 59


Or maybe he only got baptised before getting married


Alfred Anthony
Birth: 1826 - Hampshire, England
Parents: James Anthony, Jemima Coles

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:07

I will leave that baptism record in case there is a family connection.



Gee

Gee Report 7 May 2014 11:09

Am I right in thinking that sometimes people who hadn't been previously baptised as a child, were baptised just before their marriage?

Or am I making that up!

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:10

My thoughts exactly

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:10

England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
about Mark Anthony Name:Mark Anthony
Birth Place:Chilbolton, Southampton, England
Gender:Male
Event Type:Baptism
Father:James Anthony
Baptism Date:30 Jan 1815
Baptism Place:Andover, Hampshire, England
Denomination:Independent
Piece Title:
Piece 710: Andover, East Street (Independent), 1739-1828

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:12

England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
about Anthony Anthony Name:Anthony Anthony
Birth Place:Chilbolton, Southampton, England
Gender:Male
Event Type:Baptism
Father:James Anthony
Baptism Date:24 Apr 1815
Baptism Place:Andover, Hampshire, England
Denomination:Independent
Piece Title:
Piece 710: Andover, East Street (Independent), 1739-1828

Gee

Gee Report 7 May 2014 11:13


1841 England Census


Name:Ann Antony

Age:16

Estimated birth year:abt 1825

Gender:Female

Where born:Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Chilbolton

Hundred:Wherwell (Lower Half)

County/Island:Hampshire

Country:England


Registration district:Andover

Sub-registration district:Longparish


Piece:383

Book:16

Folio:2

Page Number:3

Household Members:


Name

Age

Jemima Antony 50
Mark Antony 20
Alfred Antony 15
Ann Antony 16
Arthur Antony 14
Elfrida Antony 12
William Mondy 50



Looks like Ann and Alfred were siblings and had a double wedding



Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:15

1841

Alfred Antony
Age:15
Estimated birth year:abt 1826
Where born:Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Chilbolton

Jemima Antony 50
Mark Antony 20
Alfred Antony 15 <<<<<<<<<
Ann Antony 16
Arthur Antony 14
Elfrida Antony 12
William Mondy 50

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:17

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Elfrida Anthony Name:Elfrida Anthony
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1847
Registration district:Andover
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume Number:7
Page Number:49
Records on Page:

Elfrida Anthony
Joseph Smith


Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:17


Name:
James Anthony
Residence:of Clilbolton
Spouse:Jemma Cole

Marriage Date:26 Nov 1812
Parish:Writchurch Hnts 8

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:19

1851

James Anthoney 76 - retired Tailor
Jemima Anthoney 62
Silver Anthoney- son - 27 - lovely name but it's actually Arther on original !
Ann Smith 3 - Grand dau
John Mondcey 28 lodger
George Hawkins 23 - lodger

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:19

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about James Anthony Name:James Anthony
Residence:of Clilbolton
Spouse:Jemma Cole
Marriage Date:26 Nov 1812
Parish:Writchurch Hnts 8




milton

milton Report 7 May 2014 11:21

Does seem that baptism and marriage occurred on same day.Mike ,you list Alfred birth year as 1826.What record source is this from please.

Milt

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2014 11:22

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Jemima Anthony Name:Jemima Anthony
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1858
Registration district:Andover
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2c
Page:126


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about James Anthony Name:James Anthony
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1858
Registration district:Andover
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2c
Page:126



Gee

Gee Report 7 May 2014 11:22


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name:James Anthony <<Tailor Late of Chilbolton

Probate Date:
26 Aug 1859

Death Date:
26 Nov 1858

Death Place:Southampton, England

Registry:
Winchester, England


Probate to: Anthony Anthony, son, Tailor

James wife died in the same quarter as her husband

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:31

Alfred's age is from 1841.

Normally 1841 ages were rounded down to nearest 5 for adults so maybe he was older.( especially as he is listed above his 16 year old sister )

What age did he give on his marriage cert ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 May 2014 11:42

There is a tree on Ancestry with the following ; (please check it out as not official data)



James Anthony
Birth 1777 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Death Dec 1858 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

Parents
John Anthony1732 – 1796
Ann Paine1731

spouse :
Jemima Coles 1789 – 1858 ( not Cole)

.......................................................



John Anthony
Birth 12 Aug 1732 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Death Aug 1796 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

Parents
Robert Anthony
Birth 1680 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Death 21 Apr 1769 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

&
Rose
Birth Death 15 Jan 1763 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

-----------------------------------


Ann Paine
Birth 12 Jan 1731 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

Parents
Joseph Paine
Birth 1697 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England
Death 23 Jun 1773 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England

&
Patience
Birth 1698
Death 13 Sep 1748 in Chilbolton, Hampshire, England


milton

milton Report 7 May 2014 11:48

Listed as age 22 ;therefore year of birth 1820