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Prickles could very well be right that they moved back and forth to Ireland - as did my g-grandparents one minute they were having a child in Barrow/Dalton, next child Ireland and then back to Barrow, and throw in a couple in Scotland - it was difficult to keep track of them.

Prickles - Tip noted - Thanks!

Astra, Reggie, Re William Maddrell's death. If correct might explain why there is no mention of him in the family bible. Jane Maddrell/Iddon would hardly have known him.

ArgyllGran - Yes I've been looking for the IOM - Sutherland link for a long time! I think you are probably right - Fishing was probably his trade which took him to Port St Mary - I guess - where he met my Gt Gt grandmother!

PH & Flip - Thanks both -You are absolutely spot on with the Belfast records - Amazed you have found them so readily! I am researching Jane Maddrell for my deceased Mum's best friend, granddaughter of Robert and Amy Smyth - also in the, perhaps sentimental, hope that, as she and I have Maddrell ancestors, I might be able to find a link on the IOM somewhere.

Just a tip.....

Don't ever tick a thread as "Answered" because you never know if further information can be found for you.

Prickles. :-)

I think they must already have left for Ireland by the time of the 1871 census.

Quick PS re Robert McLeod -
yes, Roderick, "seaman Steward" does indicate a MN ship (but not necessarily a passenger ship).
What I meant (when going by the 1861 census record for the wrong Robert!) was that he could have first gone to sea as a fisherman, then later joined the MN.

But as I can't find him in 1861, there's no clue as to what he was doing then.

EDIT: I see you've been researching this for a while!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=149882.0

Flip - Thank you - that seems to be right. But try as I have been - no sign on IOM in 1871 or elsewhere!

His probate record:


Hugh Iddon
Probate Date:17 Oct 1906
Death Date:4 Sep 1906
Death Place:Belfast, Antrim, Down, Ireland
Registry:London, England

Of 55 Crumlin Terrace Belfast, probate to his widow Jane. £100.

Age on death reg was 63.

In case you don't have this....


Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
about Hugh Iddon Name:Hugh Iddon
Gender:Male
Age:58
Birth Year:abt 1843
Relation to Head:Head
Residence Date:31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street:Corporation Street
District:St. Anne's
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Hugh Iddon 58
Jane London 64



Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
about Hugh Iddon Name:Hugh Iddon
Estimated birth year:abt 1843
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Death Age:63
Registration district:Belfast
Volume:1
Page:149
FHL Film Number:0101603



Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
about Jane Iddon Name:Jane Iddon
Gender:Female
Age:75
Birth Year:abt 1836
Relation to Head:Grandmother
Residence Date:2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street:Clifton Park Avenue
District:Clifton
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Robert Gordon Smyth 40
Amy Margaret Smyth 39
William Hugh Smyth 15
Malcohn Thompson Smyth 12
George Madrell Smyth 10
Lesley Gordon Smyth 8
Douglas Iddon Smyth 5
Jane Iddon 75



Web: Northern Ireland, Will Calendar Index, 1839-1943
about Jane Iddon Name:Jane Iddon
Death Date:28 Jun 1927
Death Place:Northern Ireland
Record Date:26 Aug 1927
Record Location:Belfast, Northern Ireland
Iddon Jane 28 Jun 1927 26 Aug 1927 Iddon Jane of 88 Cliftonpark Avenue Belfast widow died 28 June 1927 Probate B...



Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Robert Gordon Smyth Name:Robert Gordon Smyth
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration district:Belfast
Volume:1
Page Number:448
FHL Film Number:101257
Records on Page:

Amy Margaret Iddon



Web: Northern Ireland, Will Calendar Index, 1839-1943
about Amy Margaret Smyth Name:Amy Margaret Smyth
Death Date:24 Oct 1938
Death Place:Northern Ireland
Record Date:16 Feb 1940
Record Location:Belfast, Northern Ireland
Smyth Amy Margaret 24 Oct 1938 16 Feb 1940 Smyth Amy Margaret of 63 Landsdowne Road Belfast married woman died 24 October...

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Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
about Aney M Smyth Name:Aney M Smyth
Gender:Female
Age:29
Birth Year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Wife
Residence Date:31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street:St. James Street
District:Clifton
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Robert G Smyth 30
Aney M Smyth 29
George M Smyth
Malcolm T Smyth 1
William H Smyth 5
Ellen Nelson 32

Think this may be Hugh, bearing in mind his occupation in 1901 - I can only find him with mother Margaret in 1851:

Baptism: 30 Oct 1842 All Saints, Hesketh with Becconsall, Lancashire, England
Hugh Iddon - [Child] of John Iddon & Margaret
Abode: Hesketh
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: E. Ellwood
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 70, Entry 553
Source: LDS Film 1471150

I can't find them in dalton, but if the first child was buried in I-o-M then they may have been back there at the time of the 1871 census, returning before Amy was born in 1872.

Flip - Thank you for the link to Cumbria BMD - I was unaware of a third child in 1874. The family should be findable in 1871 Census - which I haven't managed to do so far.

William Maddrell's death?

Birth: 1813
Name: William Maddrell
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 25 Jul 1839
Event Place: Lonan, Isle of Man
Digital Folder Number: 004497426
Image Number: 00109

Astra, PH - Yes Jane Henry seems more than a little plausible. I am grateful to you all - learning a lot about how one needs to think when researching! Reggie - I take your point about no mention of Jane's father in the Bible - hadn't thought of that.

PH- Yes you have - I am truly impressed with the speed you are all contributing and grateful!!!! Doing my best to keep up!

I think we have jumped ahead of you.

:-)

Astra - Thank you. Given the variation of calculated age between Jane Iddon's 1901 census and 1927 death record I suppose 1932 can't be ruled out. I f have found this marriage.

Name: Jane Gawne
Spouse: William Maddrell
Marriage: 20 Oct 1827 - Malew

But that would make Jane Gawne just 13 or so at the time. Not impossible but seems unlikely?

Could this be the Jane. If the marriage to Jane Henry is correct then this child could have been born just before she married and her name changed later.

Name: Jane Henry
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Jan 1834
Christening Place: LONAN,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Jane Henry
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03808-1
System Origin: Isle_Of_Man-ODM
GS Film number: 106728
Reference ID: