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Thank you all !
Yes they are quite a gang these Mongers !
Seems as though sometimes the full names don`t occur on the recorded items.

Philp

I think George may have been 'Frederick George' too but I can't pin him down yet on 1911

Dea x

Philip, if there are hoards of Mongers there, many of them may be descended from Annie's cousins as she seems to have had only two brothers.

Problem is there are two Arthur Mongers born in the same area in 1862!

1881

Name: Arthur Monger
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ramsdale, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Basingstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Winchester Road
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Shepherd
Registration district: Basingstoke
Sub-registration district: Basingstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1254
Folio: 125
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Ambrose Bray 34
Ellen Bray 29
Elizabeth M. Bray 10
Annie M. Bray 6
Arthur Monger 19

Yes, I think that is Ellen. Looking at the births, I am pretty sure she was Beatrice Ellen. Well done Dea.

This 'could' be Ellen?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
GEORGE DOUGLAS HUNTER HEAD MARRIED Male 50 1861 INDIA BOMBAY RESIDENT ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS LT COLONEL
ELFRIDA HANNAH HUNTER WIFE MARRIED Female 35 1876 DURHAM HOUGHTON LE SPRING -
ISOBEL MARY GLADYS HUNTER DAUGHTER - Female 6 1905 INDIA NAINI TAL RESIDENT -
CHRISTOPHER CHEVALLIER BARNES VISITOR MARRIED Male 37 1874 INDIA BANGALORE RESIDENT ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY CAPTAIN
MARY ELIZABETH BARNES VISITOR MARRIED Female 33 1878 DURHAM HOUGHTON LE SPRING -
ALBERT EDWARD KING SERVANT SINGLE Male 26 1885 OXFORDSHIRE WARMINGTON BUTLER DOMESTIC
CHARLOTTE HUCKLE SERVANT SINGLE Female 54 1857 BEDFORDSHIRE HARROWDEN NURSE DOMESTIC
LILY LYDIA HANCOCK SERVANT SINGLE Female 28 1883 BERKSHIRE CROWTHORNE COOK DOMESTIC
ANNIE PENFOLD SERVANT SINGLE Female 37 1874 SUSSEX IFIELD HOUSEMAID DOMESTIC
BEATRICE ELLEN MONGER SERVANT SINGLE Female 17 1894 HAMPSHIRE MAPLEDOVER HOUSE - KITCHEN MAID DOMESTIC
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First name(s) BEATRICE ELLEN
Last name MONGER
Relationship SERVANT
Marital condition SINGLE
Gender Female
Age 17
Birth year 1894
Birth place HAMPSHIRE MAPLEDOVER
Occupation HOUSE - KITCHEN MAID DOMESTIC
Marriage year -
Years married -
Address THE LAURELS ALEXANDRA ROAD SOUTH FARNBOROUGH
Parish FARNBOROUGH
County Hampshire
Country ENGLAND
Registration district HARTLEY WINTNEY
Registration district number 109
Subdistrict FARNBOROUGH
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 3
Piece number 6253
Census reference RG14PN6253 RG78PN297 RD109 SD2 ED3 SN11
Schedule 11
Census reference RG14
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Dea x

Name: Mary Monger
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1905
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Basingstoke
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 139


Name: Nora Florence Monger
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1905
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Basingstoke
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 113

Name: William Monger
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1898
Baptism Place: Maplederwell, Hampshire, England
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Mary
FHL Film Number: 6344358
Reference ID: yr 1813-1987 p 62


Name: Edith Emily Monger
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1900
Baptism Place: Maplederwell, Hampshire, England
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Mary
FHL Film Number: 6344358
Reference ID: yr 1813-1987 p 63


Name: Mary Monger
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1902
Baptism Place: Maplederwell, Hampshire, England
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Mary Bray
FHL Film Number: 6344358
Reference ID: yr 1813-1987 p 64


Name: Norah Florence Monger
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1904
Baptism Place: Maplederwell, Hampshire, England
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Mary Bray
FHL Film Number: 6344358
Reference ID: yr 1813-1987 p 65

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
ELLEN BRAY HEAD WIDOW Female 61 1850 COOMBE BERKS GENERAL WORK
WILLIAM MONGER GRANDCHILD - Male 13 1898 BASINGSTOKE HANTS SCHOOL
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First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name MONGER
Relationship GRANDCHILD
Marital condition -
Gender Male
Age 13
Birth year 1898
Birth place BASINGSTOKE HANTS
Occupation SCHOOL
Marriage year -
Years married -
Address MAY POLE COTTAGE SOUTH HAYLING
Parish HAYLING SOUTH
County Hampshire
Country ENGLAND
Registration district HAVANT
Registration district number 89
Subdistrict HAVANT
Subdistrict number 1
Enumeration district 5
Piece number 5468
Census reference RG14PN5468 RG78PN250 RD89 SD1 ED5 SN126
Schedule 126
Census reference RG14
Record set 1911 Census for England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

Dea x

Thank you Rootgatherer - that makes much more sense now ;-) :-D :-D

Dea Xxx

1911

Name: James Hockley
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Andwell, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Newnham Nately Scures
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Newnham Brickyard Nr Winchfield, Hampshire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Estimated Marriage Year: 1907
Occupation: Brickyard Labourer
Registration district: Basingstoke
Registration District Number: 110
Sub-registration district: Basingstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 6286
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hockley 35
Elizabeth Mary Hockley 39
Charles James Hockley 3
Evelyn Mary Hockley 1/12
Edith Emily Monger 10


Will have a look for George, Ellen and William in 1911

Sorry Dea, that is the 1901 that I posted. I'll edit it and change the 1911 to 1901. My typing mistake. Sorry for the confusion

BUT - Arthur is still with Elizabeth on the above 1911, although James Hockley is also there????

Something is not quite right here, could you please check the details you have given us ;-)

Thanks,

Dea x

Arther Monger spouse Elizabeth Mary Bray

It seems as though they had a new child allmost every year !!

When Arthur died 03/1906 in Basingstoke vol.2c,page 268 she married a James Hockley 09/1907 in Basingstoke vol.2c page 518

So which Annie was born 1888 as in your opening post?
Was that another person?

What name did she give for her father on her marriage certificate please.

1901

Name: Annie Monger
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Monger
Birth Place: Mapledurwell, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Mapledurwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Mapledurwell
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Queens Head

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Basingstoke
Sub-registration district: Basingstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1109
Folio: 36
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Monger 39 Inkeeper
Elizabeth Monger 30
George Monger 7
Ellen Monger 6
Annie Monger 4
William Monger 3
Edith Monger 8 Months
Herbert Stanley 19
James Hockley 22

As far as i could find out she used Annie Elizabeth Monger born 14/5/1896 ? in mapledurwell.
Married Thomas James Arnold 18/10/1919 St. Swithun`s Church Nately Scures Hampshire vol.2c page 629.
She died as Arnold 6/12/1986 age 90 in Basingstoke. vol.20 page 128

1911

Name: Annie Elizabeth Monger
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Mapledurwell, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Hawley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Hawley Hill, Blackwater, Hants
Occupation: Scullerymaid Domestic
Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Registration District Number: 109
Sub-registration district: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 6259
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thomas Smith 41
Emma Smith 39
Winnifred Joyce Smith 6
Hubert George Smith 11/12
Margaret Wright 44
Ada Emma Johnson 33
Dora Elsie White 23
Ethel Mary Avis 20
Annie Elizabeth Monger 14
George Hartwright Holloway 22




Name: Annie Elizabeth Monger
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1896
Baptism Place: Maplederwell, Hampshire, England
Father: Arthur Monger
Mother: Elizabeth Mary
FHL Film Number: 6344358
Reference ID: yr 1813-1987 p 61


But not the above as she seems to have die dun married?

Name: Annie Elizabeth Monger
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1896
Date of Registration: May 1990
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1232




Name: Thomas J Arnold
Spouse Surname: Monger
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Basingstoke
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 629


Not able to find spouse. What name did she use when she married please?

Not seeing a birth for her either. When and where did she die please? Was her surname Arnold when she died?

Annie Elizabeth Monger married Thomas James Arnold on 18/10/1919

Her home village was Mapledurwell & Newnham

Which was her 'home village'?
Not Basingstoke itself then?

So she was Annie MONGER who married Mr. ARNOLD?
Do you know his full name, please?

Maybe there was an earlier marriage?

Did Annie have a middle name?
When and where did she die?


We need to establish her origins before we can help find her descendants.

Gwyn

Hi
Afraid not.
It is ( was ) Arnold.