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Found another record connected to James/Demetrius naturalisation:

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=31530030&isAv=N

Title
SURNAME - HLENTZOS;
GIVEN NAMES- Demetrios;
DATE OF NATURALISATION - 04 SEP 1943;
PREVIOUS NATIONALITY - GREEK;
PLACE OF BIRTH - Cerigo, Potamos, GREECE;
YEAR OF BIRTH - 1909;
PLACE OF RESIDENCE - Glebe, Sydney, NSW;
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - Known as BYLOS, James; Single
Contents date range - 04 Sep 1943 - 13 Nov 1957
Series number - A714
Control symbol - 16/7519
Item barcode - 31526766
Location - Canberra
Access status - Open
Date of decision - 21 Sep 2012
Physical format - BOUND VOLUMES (allocated at series level)
Visibility and availability indicators - 51.
Constituent item - is part of an aggregate item
Records authority class number - 21672

Interesting that this record appears to have information up to 1957 ....

I think the record that Chris Ho links may well be connected. The coroner's report is on Ancestry and that man was born in Cerego, Greece.

There are several articles on Trove about it.

Given that the newspaper notice said he'd been in Australia 16 years then this is possibly his arrival:

Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963

Name: Mr M D Hlentzos
Departure Place: London, United Kingdom - he boarded ship at Port Said
Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1926
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel: Oronsay

No occupation given. Address in Australia stated as 216 Castlereagh Street, Sydney.

HLENTZOS Anastassios Harden (Date of Death) 31/05/1932 9 30/09/1932 Pre A 067601 [20/1663] - Occupation: shop assistant (age 28)

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

(not sure if above related, with that Surname!)

Chris :)

edits

Registration Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District Purchase Certificate
9141/1932 HLENTZOS ANASTASSIOS MENAS IRENE COOTAMUNDRA


Cootamundra Herald (NSW : 1877 - 1957) Monday 6 June 1932

FATE DECIDED BY THE TOSS OF A PENNY

Thank you so much for this i'll look into it now

Jo, it appears then that your grandfather was Greek and his birth name was Demetrius Hlentzos. I would believe the spelling on NAA to be the correct one, other people with the surname Hlentzos also pop up in various parts of NSW.

I strongly recommend you follow up and get a copy of the naturalisation papers, it costs around $27 Aus.

No, it's not a coincidence!

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Eileen Ellen Bylos
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1943
State: New South Wales
District: West Sydney
Subdistrict: Glebe

Home Duties. Address 66 DERWENT STREET - same as the naturalisation notice.

Just because James Bylos wasn't listed doesn't mean he wasn't living there. As the electoral rolls are lists of people eligible to vote then he wouldn't be included if his naturalisation process wasn't complete.

The naturalisation papers are available from the National Archives of Australia

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=1891871

Title: Hlentzos, Demetrios [aka Bylos, James] - Naturalisation
Contents date range: 1943 - 1943
Series number: A659
Control symbol: 1943/1/3903
Item barcode: 1891871
Location:Canberra
Access status: Open
Date of decision: 16 Aug 2013
Physical format: PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Item notes
Date registered: 11 Dec 1996

Jo, I've mentioned on your other threads about using Trove (the free newspaper archives) when researching in Australia. I've just found this:

I, JAMES BYLOS, also known as Demetrius Chlenizos born at Cerigo, Greece resident 16 vears in Australia now residing at 66 Derwent Street, Glebe, NSW intend to apply for Naturalisation under the Nationality Act 1920-1936.

From The Sydney Morning Herald of 31 May 1943
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17850612?searchTerm=%22james%20bylos%22&searchLimits=

The Greek surname isn't too clear so have a look on the link.

It might just be a complete coincidence but thought worth posting as they married in Glebe.

Hi Jo

You should keep this family on one thread so that information is not duplicated and helpers can see all the information

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1340979


:-)

Yes we will do that ASAP thank you for your help
Kindest regards jo

so you, or she, should try to get that long form, then you'll get more information :-)

And yes it only had her name Jennifer bylos born 15/11/1952 that was it

Sorry I made a mistake my mother got her birth certificate 41 years ago

There is a table on the link below showing what you can expect to find on historical birth certificates

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

This indicate for NSW that the following info is available:
Child - name/date of birth/place
Father: Name occupation age and birthplace
Mother: Same + maiden name
Marriage date
Previous children

Jude

Yes my mother said it was for the poor people and Eileen wasn't wealthy by any means

Jo .......

I don't know whether you have s hort form in Australia!

I'm asking whether you have, as I know England does have.


You'd better find out!


I don't know that there is usually more information on the OZ one than you say is on your mother's.

Oh thank you for that I didn't know that was the case.
I'll inform my mother tonight to order a new one.
She received it about 21 years ago.
I'll update as soon as I find out a little more
Kindest regards jo

do you have a short form of birth certificate in Australia??

I know that your bc's usually have more information on them than that




I also know that England and Wales have a long and a short form ................... the short form has very little information other than name of child date and where born.

The short form used to be available for free while the long form had a charge ............ so many people who didn't have much money would opt for the short form.

The short form is also issued when a child is adopted and the name is changed.


It's sufficient for government ID purposes (eg, for passports), but gives little useful information

That's exactly what I was thinking but In all honestly i can not find anything on them it's like the don't exist although I have seen my mums birth certificate but neither parents are on it just my mothers name and a stamp she was born at Annandale hospital