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I am trying to find the arrival and family members details for a John Trigger believed to arrived Port Phillip Bay, Australia about 1853 parents John and Ellen Trigger

Only one coming up on Ancestry:

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Name: John Trigger
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 40
Arrival Date: 22 Oct 1879
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Plymouth
Ship: Afghan
Nationality: English

When/where was your John Trigger born?

Hi not to sure could have been Melbourne or Devon England Its believed John senior was born Devon about 1830

Just looking at Ancestry trees, what fun!

According to them, John Trigger was born 1832 in Melbourne to John Trigger and Ellen Rogers. His father John was born 1834 in Devon!!!!

Can see why you want to clarify.

Who (if anyone) did your John marry?

There's another tree has him born in 1854 Melbourne to John Trigger and Ellen Rogers but living in Devon in 1861.

Lets start with hard facts and work back.

here is the record detail ? on Ancestry
•Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923

possible Jane Johnson

TRIGGER J. FITTER 40 SINGLE ENGLISH PASSENGER STEERAGE

(Mariners and ships in Australian Waters
AFGHAN)

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1879/10/086afg.htm

(the 1879 above)

Chris :)

The family living in devon 1861 census is not him

Ian, I've posted the only result that actually comes up on Ancestry. Search results when you don't have a sub for the worldwide records often give you false promise.

You say "possible Jane Johnson" - as I said, let's work with FACTS!! There's not much point in looking up records that only *might* be connected.

How have you connected to this man and what else do you know about him?

Hi I don't think this is the same John Trigger Single aged 40 is there a marriage for John and Jane Johnson in Australia records?

Hi I don't think this is the same John Trigger Single aged 40 is there a marriage for John and Jane Johnson in Australia records?

No, not seeing anything - there may be some New Zealand items.

Ian, I know I might seem pedantic but I'm 100% committed to only giving people correct and relevant information. I will not encourage people to perpetuate the ridiculous farces seen on some trees. That's why I ask the connection and what else you know.

Hi I totally agree with comment re Ancestry trees I will need to spend more time going over my family tree details Thank you all for your kind help

You're very welcome Ian - let us know what confirmed info you do have and will be happy to help further.

Hi I have spent some time researching this afternoon and found more details

John Trigger senior born abt 1829 Devon married Ellen Rogers 1849 Liverpool
in the 1851 census John is given as being a sailor aged 22 with Ellen aged just 17 ?and a Hannah Rogers aged 22 she looks likely to be Ellen's sister.
on the marriage record 1849 it also gives John as a mariner.
I also found a details for John in a Merchant Seamen Transcription document dated 1845 it give a great description of him.

It is believed the their son John Trigger was born in Melbourne, Australia abt 1854 the family went on to live in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand.
I see that there are several New Zealand census reports for this family on Ancestry
I believe young John married abt 1875 New Zealand to a Jane Johnson

Could someone please do a look-up for their arrival in Australia 1854-1851 era and also census reports thank you

Ian, as posted above - that is the only John Trigger arrival on Ancestry, any era.

One thing I have found in the past is that when seamen moved to a new country they often managed to bypass the usual passenger lists that we see. I'm not saying that they didn't go through some sort of immigration but they're not often found on the sort of lists that we have access to on-line.

New Zealand records are by no means comprehensive.

There are not census records as such for New Zealand on Ancestry (or any other site that I know of) but there are some electoral rolls - which of course only list people who are old enough and eligible to vote. I'll have a look on those.

Mainwhile, there is a free newspaper archive for New Zealand - Papers Past which can be useful
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

And of course there is Trove for Australia http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper?q=%20

Have you looked for any records on FamilySearch? https://familysearch.org/search

New Zealand BMD shows there was a John Trigger married a Mary Johnson in 1877 - no marriage to a Jane Johnson.


Registration Number: 1877/758
Bride's Given Name(s): Mary
Bride's Family Name: Johnson
Groom's Given Name(s): John
Groom's Family Name: Trigger

A marriage printout will cost $20.40 NZ or a certificate $26.50 NZ

https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/

You could use that 1877 date to check for possible articles in Papers Past.

This is as much as you get on the NZ electoral rolls

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: John Trigger
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1870-1871
District: New Plymouth
Region or Province: Taranaki

That's it - no occupation. No other Triggers. He had freehold property at Town, 244.

By 1881 we have this:

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: John Trigger Jr
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1880-1881
District: New Plymouth
Region or Province: Taranaki

This must be the son as John Trigger is also listed. At least there is an occupation listed - they are both Brewers.

WOW
Thank you so much for the data you have found it's fantastic love the links to.
again thank you for your kind help xx