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as Ann is a widow in 1851 i assume William is her husband, BUT 1841 does not show relationships. His occupation difficult to read
--- keeper, however living at New Inn ( a pub maybe ???)
Maddie

Assuming she is the Ann Hunt who married James Nash, this is the GRO ref for the marriage:


Name:Ann Hunt
Registration Year:1839
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Newent


Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:11
Page:383

Ann Hunt
Hannah Morgan
James Nash
Thomas Winter

The marriage cert will show if her father is actually shown as John Southall (wondered if a witness had been accidentally transcribed as father).

Relationships aren't shown on the 1841, neither is Agness's occupation but William is an Innkeeper and they are living in the New Inn.

could this be William

Name: William Hodges
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1844
Registration District: Bromyard
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Bromyard, Herefordshire, England
Volume: 26
Page: 131
Line Number: 23

Agnes still at New Inn in 1861
Agness Hodges Head Widow Female 70 1791 Public House And Farmer 27 Acres Bishops Frome, Herefordshire
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Thomas Southall Nephew Unmarried Male 27 1834 Carter Bishops Frome, Herefordshire

George Southall Nephew Unmarried Male 19 1842 Carters Boy Bishops Frome, Herefordshire

Emma Craddock Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Bishops Frome, Herefordshire

John Chamberlin Lodger Unmarried Male 30 1831 Labourer Bishops Frome, Herefordshire


First name(s) AGNES
Last name HODGES
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1791
Age 78
Death quarter 2
Death year 1869
District BROMYARD
County Herefordshire
Country England
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Page 340
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
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Potty
Thats very interesting - thank you - this is what I have for that marriage ( who do you believe Ann Hunt to be? ) I was a little lost following your meaning ....
Marriages Sep 1839
HUNT Ann Newent 11 383
NASH James Newent 11 383
Marriage - from Parish records:
Record_ID: 21981 Entry_Number: 25
Year: 1839 Month:Sep Day:5
Grooms_Surname: NASH
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: Full
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Broomsgreen
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Nash
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: HUNT
Brides_Forenames: Ann
Brides_Age: Minor
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Broomsgreen
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Southall
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of John Chance
Witness_2: Mark of Ann Boulton
Officiating_Minister: J Simons
Event: Marriage
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/27 Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Dymock


Maddy
I found this:
Bishop’s Frome Cassey Directory of Herefordshire 1858
Hodges Mrs. Agnes, beer retailer

Bishop's Frome, Herefordshire
Extract from Post Office Directory of Herefordshire, 1863
Hodges Agnes (Mrs.), beer retailer
Hodges Richard, farmer,

NB: Dont know who Richard Hodges is - I thought Agnes was married to William Hodges - perhaps Richard is his brother???

spotted this on a site entitled: family history documents for sale Herefordshire:
Could be that this is Willam Hodges & Wife Agnes:
60/46 Bishops Frome - 1879 - Mortgage of properties as security for overdraft by Thomas James Ward in favour of Messrs Webb & Co, Ledbury (John Cam Thackwell, Joseph Webb, Edward John Webb, & Henry Moore). Details of properties and land (with names & acreage), including an Inn, cottage & hop kiln, cottage & wain house. Properties originally acquired by Ward's uncle - Thomas Ward. All the lands appear to have been occupied by William Hodges, as tenant.

So - I assume the 'INN' refered to here is New Inn, as shown on the census for William Hodges

Hmmmmmmmmm
the 1879 entry may not be them as they appeared to have died by then. Maybe a relative.
Richard could be a son maybe ?

her marriage


Agatha Southall
England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: William Hodges
Spouse's Name: Agatha Southall
Event Date: 26 Jan 1828
Event Place: Bishops Frome,Hereford,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13855-2 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 992636

Maddie - Many thanks for all your help......have gained a lot from yourself & Potty..Thank you both.

I started off by trying to identify the correct John Southall a farmer who is named as Ann Hunts father on her marriage to James Nash in the parish records 1839.
(her mother was Ann Hunt on her baptism parish record - no fathers name shown)

Im not sure that I have yet truly identified John Southall - but have identified - A- John Southall right age in right area - his sister Agatha ( Agnes) & sibling Robert & father Thomas Southall.....so more to double check......I really could do with finding John Southalls marriage (pref to a Hannah Hunt )......

Not sure where to go from here...

Anyway - thank you both very much.
Gill

it seems more than likely they never married, only death death for a hannah southall is 1841 quite a distance from Bishop Frome

Name: Hannah Southall
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1841
Registration District: Leominster
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Leominster, Herefordshire, England
Volume: 26
Page: 153
Line Number: 18

I think you are correct - Hannah Hunt didnt marry John Southall.......

1861 census shows visitor Hannah Hunt. so Hannah was with her daughter Ann

Name: James Nash
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock Ryland
Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
James Nash 46
Ann Nash 40
Mary Ann Nash 12
Charlotte Nash 9
James Nash 4
Hannah Hunt 61
William Lavery 23

Possible / Probable Death:
Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%)
Hunt Hannah 74 Newent 6a 184

As far as I can see - Hannah had 4 children:
Name: Anne Hunt
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 03 Sep 1820
Christening Place: CANON FROME,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Hannah Hunt
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01653-3

Name: William Hunt
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Dec 1823
Christening Place: CANON FROME,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hannah Hunt
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01653-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 992075 Reference ID:


James Hunt - c1830

ame: Thomas Hunt
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Jan 1836
Christening Place: Bosbury, Hereford, England
Mother's Name: Hannah Hunt

What I still dont know is:

1> Why does Ann give the name John Southall as her father at her marriage?
2> Is Hannah HUNT, Hannahs married name or her maiden name?
3> Did Hannah Hunt ever marry?

if this is Thomas's marriage the cert should name his father, might put the cat among the pidgeon's though

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Year Of Marriage 1860
First name(s) THOMAS
Last name HUNT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1860
Registration month -
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MARY BULLOCK
Spouse's last name -
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County Herefordshire
Country England
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wonder if I can find out fathers name from parish records somewhere? I will take a look Thanks Maddie

This could be Thomas and William - ages are a bit out and they both have a middle Initial. The address is Belle View House, which seems to be a school. Lots of other names which I haven't posted:


1851 England Census
Thomas I Hunt

Age:13
Estimated birth year:abt 1838
Gender:Male
Where born:Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish:Gloucester South Hamlet
Town:Gloucester
County/Island:Gloucestershire
Registration district:Gloucester
Sub-registration district:St John the Baptist

William H Hunt 24
Thomas I Hunt 13

Edit: Forget that - I think the one below is more likely:


1851 England Census
Thomas Hunt Illegit

Age:18
Estimated birth year:abt 1833
Relation:Son

Mother's name:Mary Hunt
Where born:Bisley, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish:Bisley
Ecclesiastical parish:Bisley

Mary Hunt 54 Head
Ann Hunt 52 Sister
William Hunt 22 - Son - could mean Ann's son not Mary's
Thomas Hunt 18 - Son

there is also this Thomas in the workhouse but no Wlliam
1841

1841 England Census about Thomas Hunt
Name: Thomas Hunt
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Ledbury
Hundred: Radlow
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 425
Book: 3
Folio: 35
Page Number: 3

There is also this one - he is living with an Isaac and Hannah Hunt and several other children. The Hannah in Bisley on the 1851 is shown as unmarried:


Name:Thomas Hunt
Age:6
Estimated birth year:abt 1835
Gender:Male
Where born:Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish:Bisley
Hundred:Bisley

Isac Hunt abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
Hanah Hunt abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
Samuel Hunt abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
Betty Hunt abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
Rechal Hunt abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
Thomas Hunt abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire
John Hunt abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Bisley, Gloucestershire

This could be correct as they may well have been at a boys school - I have d.o.b. c 1836 Thomas & c 1823 William - so ages fit. Do we know the name / type of school please & address?

1851 England Census
Thomas I Hunt
Age:13
Estimated birth year:abt 1838
Gender:Male
Where born:Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish:Gloucester South Hamlet
Town:Gloucester
County/Island:Gloucestershire
Registration district:Gloucester
Sub-registration district:St John the Baptist

William H Hunt 24 (c1827)?
Thomas I Hunt 13 (c1838)?

this james

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about James Hunt
Name: James Hunt
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1830
Baptism Place: Colwall,Hereford,England
Mother: Hannah Hunt
FHL Film Number: 992142

1851 ????

1851 England Census about James Hunt
Name: James Hunt
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Welland
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Upton On Severn
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2043
Folio: 262
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Colston 30
James Hunt 20

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Thanks guys - Potty the Hunt family from Bisley doesnt seem to fit I'm afraid - but the great news is - that rules THEM out!

I will need to check to James from Colwall ( 1851census) - but doubt if thats MY James Hunt.......Does it give the occupation of Willian Colston ? - Is he the head of the family? If not - who is - it maybe a farm or pub or ? ( ie what type of work is James doing etc)......that may help me. ( shame it doesnt say where in Herefordshire he was born , as that would help too ).

The Thomas Hunt in 1841in the workhouse - looks good....worth progressing in some way. Have we found him in 1851?

the 1851 census for James
he and William Colston are farm labourers
they are the only ones in the household
liviing next door is a Colston family, the father is a farmer.

cannot find him thereafter.

maybe Thomas 1851
William Taylor Head Married Male 55 1796 Inn Keeper Bosbury, Herefordshire
I
Elizabeth Taylor Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Dymock, Gloucestershire

Harriet Taylor Daughter Unmarried Female 27 1824 - Bosbury, Herefordshire

Thomas Hunt Servant Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Bosbury, Herefordshire

living at 12 Bromyard Road

can't find him thereafter
maddie

Thanks Maddie

Great help & all the info has moved me forward a little more..............

Regards
Gill