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1911 Census - try as I might I just cannot

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Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Jul 2014 10:37

locate Richard Wingrove Corby on 1911 census. In 1901 he was in an orphanage as parents had died. He was born 1889 Newcastle on Tyne. I have tried just Richard without the middle name, Richard with the middle name as well, I have tried Corby, Corbie, Carby. I know he remained in the Northumberland area. He was a miner and I expect him to be a 'boarder' in someone else's house as in no way would he have been able to afford housing of his own. His elder brother was a boarder with a family in 1911 but Richard is not with him.. Richard married in 1917, the marriage regd. Morpeth reg district. I expected to find him in the Annitsford, Choppington, Bedlington area but no luck. Could anyone spare the time to have a quick look to see if I am missing him? Thanks.

Dea

Dea Report 11 Jul 2014 10:54

sorry - can't see him anywhere.

I have to go out soon but will take another look when I get back.

Dea x

safc

safc Report 11 Jul 2014 11:00

????

Name: Rd Corby
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: Mar 1911
Event Place: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birthplace: Eng
Ship Name: Tunisian
Affiliate Publication Number:
Affiliate Film Number: T-4739
Digital Folder Number: 004542871
Image Number: 00099



Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Jul 2014 11:02

saft - thank you. Richard did in fact emigrate but to Australia in abt 1926 after his marriage and the birth of a son. Thank you for trying.

Need to go out for a while but will come back to thread. Thanks

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 11 Jul 2014 12:54

1901 has him born in South Shields, Durham?

Name: Richd Corboy
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Jesmond
Ecclesiastical parish: Jesmond Clayton Memorial
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4781
Folio: 156
Page Number: 59
Household schedule number: 348

But still can't spot him in 1911.

Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Jul 2014 13:08

BeverleyW - yes that is him in the orphanage but he really was born in Newcastle as were the rest of his family. Thank you for trying. It is so frustrating when you know fine well he is around somewhere in the Bedlington/Netherton/Choppington area. I am beginning to wonder if he has been missed off.

Astra

Astra Report 11 Jul 2014 13:35

Isn't this Jane in 1901?

Name: Jane Corby
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Civil Parish: Westgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4766
Folio: 20
Page Number: 32
Household schedule number: 215
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Corby 35>>>>>>Widow............Cook Domestic

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Jul 2014 13:47

More info on previous thread where it says that Jane died January 1901.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1021182

Astra

Astra Report 11 Jul 2014 14:08

This is his Wife Mary travelling to Australia with son Richard. I can't find travel details for Richard Senior.

First name(s) MARY E
Last name CORBY
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 25
Birth year 1898
Occupation HWIFE
Departure year 1923
Departure day 7
Departure month 11
Departure port LONDON
Destination port SYDNEY
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country AUSTRALIA
Destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship name THEMISTOCLES
Ship official number 129349
Ship master's first name W M
Ship master's last name JERMYN
Shipping line THE ABERDEEN
City LONDON
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet 18614
Ship registered tonnage 7046
Number of passengers 899
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Astra

Astra Report 11 Jul 2014 14:18

There is a death in 1901 but it is in Tynemouth district so not sure it is her.

Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)
Corby Jane 37 Tynemouth 10b 171

Margaret

Margaret Report 11 Jul 2014 17:03

Yes Astra - Mary and baby Richard did travel together as Richard had already gone ahead but like you I have failed to find evidence of this. Richard's elder brothers Joseph (and wife Mabel) also went to Australia but I have this information and Norman and wife & child also went (child born ik 1933) and I have failed to find his immigrant information too. I do wonder whether the immigration records online are actually complete. Thank you so much for trying. Richard's whereabouts in 1911 are still a mystery and I have spent ages this afternoon trying anything and everything I can think of to find him. He married his wife in 1917 and in 1911 she lived in Netherton (near Bedlington) so I imagine he lived locally for them to meet.

Flip

Flip Report 11 Jul 2014 17:57

If you look on freebmd there is only one Richard W Corby born between 1870-1900 even using phonetic search, so what about this medal card?

Richard W Corby
Regiment or Corps:Northumberland Fusiliers, Durham Light Infantry
Regimental Number:13579, 57132
Other Records:
Search for 'Richard W Corby' in other WWI collections

Flip

Flip Report 11 Jul 2014 18:23

Sorry, but no sign of the military record for the above on ancestry - maybe he signed on earlier than WW1 and someone could check on FMP?

Incidently, from where do you know he was a miner - from his marriage record, or later records in Australia?

Added: according to national archives he was a Lance-Sergeant, and his first theatre of war was France in 1915, so maybe that indicated he had served earlier to have achieved the rank? I'm not that up on military history though.

Flip

Flip Report 12 Jul 2014 07:36

When Mary & Richard jnr travelled they were 3rd class passengers, bound for Sydney - this could be him, the image also states bound Sydney and he appears to be travelling alone:

Mr R W Corby
Departure Place:London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date:2 Mar 1923
Arrival Place:Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel:Jervis Bay

This vessel left london approx 29 January - but the outgoing passenger list did not have an R W Corby. I've been through all the images on ancestry, and he isn't listed so wonder if he was a late addition, or transferred from another ship. The voyage went via Suez, and was delayed in Colombo so maybe he boarded there.

Like everyone else, I can't see him in 1911 sorry.

Margaret

Margaret Report 12 Jul 2014 18:19

Flip - thank you so much. I knew Richard had gone ahead but couldn't find him anywhere although must confess I was looking at vessels embarking at Sydney not Freemantle. Richard subsequently spent all his life in the Newcastle, Abermain area until his death in 1964. He also was in the Australian Forces during WW2. Just as an aside, his wife Mary never ever visited Uk to see her family as she was so home-sick she said she would not return to Australia, so didn't risk it.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 12 Jul 2014 19:04

I even tried Scotland to no avail...assume you have burial details for the pair

Jude

Flip

Flip Report 12 Jul 2014 21:42

Hi Margaret, the ship stopped at Freemantle before continuing it's journey - but that was the first port of call in Australia - so that is where the immigrants were listed. Richard did not leave the ship at Freemantle. Looking at the passenger list, it was continuing to Melbourne and Sydney. Added: some passengers were booked to go to Brisbane and Auckland as well.

Possibly someone with more knowledge of Australian records can check it out and confirm if it is him - although I think it likely?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Jul 2014 07:33

Baptism (Find My Past)
First name(s) RICHARD WINGROVE
Last name CORBY
Birth day 17
Birth month 08
Birth year 1889
Baptism day 04
Baptism month Sep
Baptism year 1889
Parish NEWCASTLE
Church Elswick Road Weslyan
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Residence 65 Tamworth Rd.
County Northumberland
Country England
Extended information Born 17/08/1889
Record set Northumberland and Durham Baptisms

(adding above, you might already have!)

Chris :)

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=9346997


Death
21163/1927 CORBY JOHN RICHARD MARY E KURRI KURRI

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search

Margaret

Margaret Report 13 Jul 2014 11:25

Thank you all so much. I had not got the baptism details but did have the death details. Both Richard and Mary are buried at Kurri Kurri cemetery along with their baby son John who died aged 6 months.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Jul 2014 12:35

Just a thought.....The two regiments that the Richard W Corby that Flip posted medal card about were Northumberland Fusiliers and Durham Light Infantry

Both regiments were stationed in India at the time of the 1911 census. I can't find the military censuses overseas on Ancestry and on FMP am not coming up with anything. Google says the Northumberland Fusiliers are on page 2026!

If anyone is better at searching than I am then maybe.......

Jude