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Lynn...You could have just continued on this thread...

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wooopy dooo thank you this looks good going to have a good look this afternoon very kind of you to bother regards lynn

They christened 2 children on same day:

Emma Sarah Jane Clark
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:10 Aug 1862
Father's Name:George Hugh Clark
Mother's name:Emma Mead Clark
Parish or Poor Law Union:St George in the East
Borough:Tower Hamlets

Of 14 John street, Stepney, father a cork cutter. Emma born 10/6/1859.
Also christened was Hugh George, born 20/7/1862.

Their marriage?

George Hugh Clark
Estimated birth year:abt 1835
Age:23
Spouse Name:Emma Mead Spaull
Spouse Age:17
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:15 Feb 1858
Parish:Christ Church, Watney Street
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:High Clark Should by Hugh, cork cutter
Spouse Father:Thomas Peter Spaull, compositor

Neither married before, both of 15 Ann street. George is a cork cutter. The witnesses were Thomas & Rachel Clark.

And her mother in 1881:

Sophia Clark
Age:11
Estimated birth year:abt 1870
Relationship to Head:Daughter
Father:George H. Clark
Mother:Emma M. Clark
Gender:Female
Where born:London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Byker
County/Island:Northumberland
Country:England
Street address:Cook St Backpart of No 47
Education:Employment status:
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Registration district:Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district:Byker
ED, institution, or vessel:11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece:5067Folio:79Page Number:11
Household Members:NameAge

George H. Clark 45
Emma M. Clark 40
Emma S.J. Clark 21
George B. Clark 16
Alfred T. Clark 14
Sophia Clark 11
Jane Clark 4

Jane born Gateshead, all the rest born Middlesex - George is a cork cutter.

I think this is Dorothy's parents marriage:

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Clark Sophia Georgina Newcastle T. 10b23<<<<
FRANCIS John Newcastle On Tyne 10b23<<<<
KINGHORN Alexander Newcastle T. 10b23
RICHARDSON Margaret Newcastle T. 10b23

Although a widow, on the 1911 census she had stated married 23 years 9 children, 5 still living (4 with her + your Dorothy I presume). Born Whitechapel, London - but this varies with each census.

If you want John William Linsey's parents then you are going to have to get the marriage certificate for the name of his father, and addresses and occupations and witnesses will also help.

this is everything I have. dorothey francis born 1889 death 1969 was wed to john William linsey curran born 1886 death 1947 .i have child born 1911 death 1911do not know anything if boy or girl. my grandmother ellen maria 1912 death 1946 Margaret e 1914 death 1966 john w 1923 death 2000. have nothing on john William linseys parents . only thing I have for his wife dorothey francis was her father john francis 1868 and his wife sophia1870 and I think she came from london my mams 80 soon I thought I wood do her a tree but have nothing . thanks for your time

Hi Lynn, there is no deaths for John or Dorothy in the area in 1947. There's a possible for John in 1946 (as previously posted), but nothing for Dorothy 1945-50, there is however a death in Newcastle in 1969 which could be her (age 80).

How sure are you that they both died in the 1940s?

Looking at the freebmd they look to have had a further 5 children after the 1911 census, but 3 of those died in childhood (Sophia G, John F & Eliza A), leaving just Margaret E 1914, and John W 1923.

ADDED: Whoever registered the 1969 death did not give Dorothy's birth date, just stated born Feb.1889 - Dorothy Francis was registered JFM qtr 1889.

hello mary all I have on my john William linsey curran was born byker Newcastle 1886 death walker Newcastle 1947 he wed Dorothy francis born 1889 death 1947 born Newcastle and he was in the war had lots of meddles do not know if he had siblings or who his parents will be I am sure it will be one of the names I was given regards lynn

Others on ancestry.co.uk have John William Curran 1884-1961 Newcastle son of Francis Joseph Curran and Mary Ann Smith.
The above John W married in 1909 to Elizabeth Ann Dodds 1889-1961.

There were 2 John William Currans,one born O/N/D 1884 10b 6 and the other J/F/M 1886 10b 147.

Maryb.

mmmmm but try otherthings first can not afford keep getting these you think I could find john William linsey curran when his name so long thanks

A marriage cert would hopefully give you his fathers name which might be the best one to get.

thank you everyone I will have to look at all these have no clue who to link him to without getting birth cert.very kind of you all to take the time regards lynn

If this is the correct census for Francis - John's father, then, the Irish connection could be Francis' mother

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, Crispin Street, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Curran Head Son Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland
Katherine Curran Mother Widow Female 47 1834 - Ireland
Lorella Curran Daughter Single Female 20 1861 No Occupation Scotland
Maria Curran Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Schollar Durham, Durham
Francis Curran Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland<<<<<<<<
William Curran Son Single Male 13 1868 Coal Miner Durham, Durham
James Curran Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Durham, Durham
William Blenkinsop Lodger Single Male 23 1858 Coal Miner Hexham, Northumberland

House number 9
House name -
Street Crispin Street
Parish Elswick
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Series RG11
Piece number 5055
Folio 123
Page 1
Record set

Same family 1891, another birth place
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cow Gate, Fenham, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frank Curran Head Married Male 31 1860 Coal Miner Northumberland
Mary Ann Curran Wife Married Female 24 1867 - Devonshire, Dog Bank
Thos Curran Son Single Male 7 1884 - Hare Street
John W Curran Son Single Male 6 1885 - Bentwick
Dummick Curran Son Single Male 2 1889 - Northumberland, Cowgate
Frances Curran Daughter Single Female 0 1891 - Northumberland, Cowgate


Birth place (other) Bentwick
House name -
Street Cow Gate
Parish Fenham
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough Tyneside
Ecclesiastical district St James Benwell
Registration district Newcastle upon Tyne
Enumeration district 60
Series RG12
Piece number 4203
Folio number 66
Page 12

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
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CURRAN Francis Newcastle T. 10b 238
Smith Mary Ann Newcastle On Tyne 10b 238

might be marriage index

Name:John William Curran
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1551
Records on Page

John William Curran
Jane Ann Davidson
James Frederick Fairbairn
Dorothy Francis ******possible

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
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CURRAN John William Gateshead 10a 1551
FRANCIS Dorothy Gateshead 10a 1551

?? Possible
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Westerhope, East Denton, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Castle Ward includes Gosforth but is on the opposite side of Newcastle from Byker where the 1911 has him born

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis J Curran Head Married Male 42 1859 Coal Miner Stonework Newcastle All Saints
Mary A Curran Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Newcastle All Saints
Thomas Curran Son Single Male 17 1884 Coal Mine Inclineman Newcastle All Saints
John W Curran Son Single Male 16 1885 Hauling Engine Tenter Gosforth, Northumberland
Dominic Curran Son Single Male 12 1889 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Frank Curran Son Single Male 10 1891 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Joseph Curran Son Single Male 8 1893 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Esther Curran Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Gosforth, Northumberland
James Curran Son Single Male 4 1897 - Gosforth, Northumberland
Patrick Curran Son Single Male 1 1900 - Gosforth, Northumberland
George E Curran Son Single Male 0 1901 - Westerhope,
Birth town Gosforth
Birth county Northumberland
Street Westerhope
Parish East Denton
Town -
County Northumberland
Country England
Municipal ward East Denton
Parliamentary borough Tyneside
Registration district Castle Ward
Enumeration district 8
Series RG13
Piece number 4818
Folio number 243
Page 37