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PricklyHolly
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22 Aug 2014 17:43 |
No worries.
Prickles. x
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Chris Ho :)
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22 Aug 2014 16:16 |
(apologies PH, not ignoring you, lol, yes, checked Sarah above, was 1793!)
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2014 09:45 |
Hi Chris
Siblings I have for Jasper are...
Sarah Chandler1793
Thomas Chandler1795 –
Anne Chandler1797 –
Edward Chandler1800 –
George Chandler1802 – 1803
George Chandler1804 –
James Chandler 1806 --
I just checked out the Chandler/Payne marriage. Wit: William Payne. It looks good!! Thank you.
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England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Ann Payne Name:Ann Payne Gender:Female Baptism Date:3 Mar 1771 Baptism Place:Aldenham,Hertford,England Father:Wm Payne Mother:Hannah
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about William Paine Name:William Paine Gender:Male Marriage Date:7 Jan 1765 Marriage Place:Aldenham,Hertford,England Spouse:Hannah Howard
I spotted another one on there......
Benjamin Coose......Hannah Payne....Wit: William Payne.
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Hannah Paine Name:Hannah Paine Gender:Female Baptism Date:25 Dec 1767 Baptism Place:Aldenham,Hertford,England Father:Wm Paine Mother:Hannah England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Benjamin Coose Name:Benjamin Coose Gender:Male Marriage Date:16 Nov 1789 Marriage Place:Aldenham,Hertford,England Spouse:Hannah Payne
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Benjamin Coose Name:Benjamin Coose Gender:Male Baptism Date:21 Jan 1755 Baptism Place:All Saints and Saint John,Hertford,Hertford,England Father:John Coose Mother: Susanna
I am on a roll. :-D
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Chris Ho :)
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21 Aug 2014 09:35 |
Hertfordshire Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past) First name(s) Sarah Last name Chandler Baptism year 1792 Baptism day 25 Baptism month Aug Place Watford Father's first name(s) Wm Mother's first names(s) Anne
(1791 Marriage on FMP, also below, William Chandler Ann Payne)
http://www.mocavo.com/The-Parish-Registers-of-Aldenham-Hertfordshire-Volume-2/155242/293
(another possible)
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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21 Aug 2014 08:56 |
Thank you very much for the above information Jooney.......much appreciated.
I didn't know Jasper had a sister Anne........I am made up with that!
I can get back on to Ancestry now so I can check things out.
Helen..........you have definitely hit the nail on the head with the 1841 census. I nearly didn't post this request on here but I am so pleased I did now.
Jasper and Mary Ann are my 4x Grt Grandparents.
~Well done~ and thank you so much for your time.
Prickles. x :-)
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JoonieCloonie
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21 Aug 2014 02:52 |
Helen has hit it on the head with the 1841 for sure
wondering whether the householders were related ...
Marriages Jun 1839 ? COBURN Charlotte Winchester &c. 7 295 GALE John Winchester &c. 7 295
no help ... but ... when I looked at the reg dist ... http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/winchester.html
'1.11.1897 Gained parts of the parish of Chandlers Ford (which until 1.10.1897 formed parts of the parishes of North Stoneham and South Stoneham) from South Stoneham registration district.'
... might your Chandlers have a place named for them? :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandler%27s_Ford
just a possible connection
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6NC-1HQ
Name: William Chandler Spouse's Name: Ann Mansbridge Event Date: 20 Jul 1796 Event Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02020-3
Millbrook was in South Stoneham reg dist
Jasper's eldest sibling Anne seems to have been born 1797 Watford
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PricklyHolly
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20 Aug 2014 19:39 |
LK.........thank you for those baptism details.
I have a problem at the moment because Ancestry is playing up so I can't check out if I already have that information in my tree.
Helen.......
I do believe you have cracked it with that 1841 census.
I didn't know Mary existed.........but with the details you posted regarding her marriages..........it has to be them surely!!
I am a little bit excited over here. :-D
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LadyKira
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20 Aug 2014 19:16 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Alice Chandler Name: Alice Chandler Gender: Female Baptism Date: 13 Sep 1846 Baptism Place: South Stoneham,Hampshire,England Father: Jasper Chandler Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1041740
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LadyKira
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20 Aug 2014 19:14 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Emily Chandler Name: Emily Chandler Gender: Female Baptism Date: 15 Apr 1849 Baptism Place: South Stoneham,Hampshire,England Father: Jasper Chandler Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1041740
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LadyKira
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20 Aug 2014 19:13 |
If it helps.
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Charles Chandler Name: Charles Chandler Gender: Male Baptism Date: 17 Mar 1844 Baptism Place: , South Stoneham, Hampshire, England Father: Jasper Chandler Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1041740 Reference ID: 2:1Z2RTMM
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Gritty
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20 Aug 2014 19:08 |
I think it would be easier to get birth certificate- but it still would be nice to find where they were.
I know this isn't necessarily the right area but this might be worth a look for Mary and children in 1841: (none of the children were born in county)
First name(s) Mary Last name Chandler Gender Female Age 30 Birth year 1811 Born in County- No Street Abbots Worthy Parish or township Kings Worthy Town Abbots Worthy County Hampshire Registration district Winchester & Hursley Archive reference HO107 Piece number 404 Book number 28 Folio number 4 Page number 11 Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
John Gale Male 25 1816 Hampshire Charllotte Gale Female 25 1816 Hampshire Mary Chandler Female 30 1811 - Mary Chandler Female 9 1832 - Eliza Chandler Female 6 1835 - Sarah Chandler Female 4 1837 - Jane Chandler Female 1 1840 -
I checked for a marriage for the daughter Mary that isn't listed on the 1841- there is one that fits with father Jasper:
Marriage:- Name: Mary Ann Chandler Spouse: John Robins Father: Jasper Chandler Marriage: 18 Jan 1863 - Kennington, Surrey, England
She's later widowed and marries George Cross:
Marriage:- Mary Ann Robins Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Age: 46 Spouse: George Cross Spouse Age: 65 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Apr 1877 Parish: St James, Clapham Park Borough: Lambeth Father Name: Jasper Chandler Spouse Father: George Cross Register Type: Parish Register
EDIT: Corrected Mary's first marriage
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PricklyHolly
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20 Aug 2014 18:40 |
That all looks very interesting........especially if Jasper was in the hospital.
I think I need to purchase the youngest child Emily's birth cert and be done with it.
Much appreciated everyone.
Thank you. x
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Chris in Sussex
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20 Aug 2014 18:32 |
There is a North End in Hampstead so I wonder....
1841 Name: Mary Chandler Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Gender: Female Civil Parish: St John Hampstead Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hampstead
Piece: 674 Book: 6 Folio: 16 Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age Mary Chandler 34 Sarah Chandler 7 Mary Chandler 3 Charles Pratt 30 Fanny Pratt 10 Thomas Pratt 9 George Pratt 6
Eliza with relatves? EDIT....NO she is still with the Worboys in 1851
Name: Eliza Chandler Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St John Hampstead Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hampstead
Piece: 674 Book: 6 Folio: 8 Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age Joseph Warboys 54 Mary Warboys 54 Ann Warboys 20 Eliza Chandler 4
Chris
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Aug 2014 17:36 |
Hertfordshire Marriage Banns Transcription (Find My Past) First name(s) John Last name Chandler Banns year 1833 Banns day 5 12 19 Banns month May Place Watford Marriage year 1833 Groom's first name(s) John (of this Parish. Bach) Groom's last name Chandler Groom's residence Watford Bride's first name(s) Mary Ann Bride's last name Gaddesden (of the Parish of Eaton Bray Bedfordshire) Bride's residence Watford County Hertfordshire Record set Hertfordshire Marriage Banns
(just throwing in above, not seeing actual Marriage, only one on pages crossed through, or scribbled on!)
Notice 1861/71 says Bedfordshire for her.
Chris :)
http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/
(Names Online)
(not seeing on above)
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Gritty
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20 Aug 2014 17:24 |
Is it possible they were living seperately? The age is a little off but if rounding down could be closer-
1841 Jasper Chandler Gender Male Age 25 Birth year 1816 Occ: MS (male servant?) Born in County- No Street Charlotte Street Parish or township St Marylebone City or borough St Marylebone County Middlesex Country England Registration district St Marylebone Archive reference HO107 Piece number 675 Book number 1 Folio number 9 Page number 11
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PricklyHolly
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20 Aug 2014 17:19 |
Jas on the 1841 census is in the King's College Hospital.
Most of the ages have been rounded to the nearest 5 or 10......so a possibility.
I will check back on here later.........just in case there is anything of interest.
A big thank you to everyone who took the time to look.
Prickles.
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Jacqueline
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20 Aug 2014 17:14 |
familysearch has numerous baptisms for Mary Ann ****** 1809 to 1811 in Herts, but none is actually for Buntingford, which is a shame
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PricklyHolly
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20 Aug 2014 17:04 |
I have the registered birth of Alice and Emily's birth and baptism......so at least I have something to go on for a certificate.
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Jacqueline
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20 Aug 2014 17:02 |
Jas is usually the abbreviation for James, but the chappie above was not born in county, so may be promising
His occ is P Labour...............whatever that may mean, and he's almost certainly in the workhouse
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PricklyHolly
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20 Aug 2014 16:58 |
That looks interesting Jacqueline. I will take a closer look at that one.
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