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Mary Jane Teale

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John

John Report 25 Aug 2014 12:31

I am trying to find the parents and siblings of my great grandmother, Mary Jane Teale born 1849, Dublin, Ireland. I tried unsuccessfully to do this by searching Irish births on Ancestry.co.uk.
She married John Blackshaw Q4 1868 in Leeds, England and had 6 children, one of which was my maternal grandmother Lily Blackshaw b1886, Holbeck, Leeds. I cannot find census records of Mary Jane before her marriage or her birth record and would like to discover her Irish family roots.
Please could anyone help? Many thanks :-)

patchem

patchem Report 25 Aug 2014 12:36

What was her father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate?

Thank-you

patchem

patchem Report 25 Aug 2014 12:40

One of her siblings:

1871 England Census
Mary Jane Blackshaw
Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Blackshaw
Gender: Female Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 4541 Folio: 46 Page Number: 7
John Blackshaw 21
Mary Jane Blackshaw 22
Emily Blackshaw 3 Months
Arthur Seale 20 TEALE bro-in-law ship carpenter Ireland
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4541; Folio: 46; Page: 7; GSU roll: 847132.

John

John Report 25 Aug 2014 12:44

Thanks patchem.
Didn't know about Arthur. I don't have copy of Mary Jane's Marriage cert unfortunately to identify father.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Aug 2014 13:24

Marriage image is on Ancestry so will try and send a copy

Surname on image is TEALL

Father - Henry a shipwright

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:32

From http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Name ALFRED EDWARD TEALL
Date of Birth 11 January 1846
Address RINGSEND
Father HENRY TEALL
Mother JANE
Further details in the record
Father Occupation SHIP BUILDER
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
1 58 459 DU-CI-BA-147437
The church register page containing this record has not yet been imaged.

Gritty

Gritty Report 25 Aug 2014 13:32

I think this is brother Arthur- actually James Arthur

1881Ladbroke Street, Hunslet, Yorkshire
James A Teall Head Married Male 30 1851 Ship Carpenter Ireland
Elizabeth E Teall Wife Married Female 21 1860 Hull, Yorkshire, England
Arthur W Teall Son Single Male 0 1881 Leeds, Yorkshire, England

1891Lyndhurst Street, Leeds
Arthur Teale Head Married Male 40 1851 Steam Crane Driver Ireland
Elizabeth E Teale Wife Married Female 31 1860 Hull, Yorkshire, England
Arthur W Teale Son Male 10 1881 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lena Teale Daughter Female 7 1884 Scholar Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Charles E Teale Son Male 4 1887 Hull, Yorkshire, England


Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:32

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MATTHEW

Baptism of ELIZABETH TEALL of RINGSEND on 7 April 1844

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Name ELIZABETH TEALL
Date of Birth 10 March 1844
Address RINGSEND
Father HENRY TEALL
Mother JANE
Further details in the record
Father Occupation SHIP BUILDER
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
1 53 407 DU-CI-BA-147386

patchem

patchem Report 25 Aug 2014 13:34

This looks like Arthur in 1901:

1901 England Census
James Arthur Teale
Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Ellen Teale
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Mary Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Occupation: possibly says Shipwright
Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Piece: 4222 Folio: 112 Page Number: 16 Household schedule number: 105
James Arthur Teale 49
Elizabeth Ellen Teale 41
Arthur William Teale 20
Alfred Teale 18
Lena Teale 17
Charles Edward Teale 14
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4222; Folio: 112; Page: 16.

Gritty

Gritty Report 25 Aug 2014 13:37

Marriage for her brother confirming Henry as father:

James Arthur Teall
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Date: 1851
Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1879
Marriage Place: Drypool, York, England
Father: Henry Teall
Spouse: Elizabeth Ellen Dry
FHL Film Number: 1702902
Reference ID: 149

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Aug 2014 13:38

1861
Class: RG 9; Piece: 3351; Folio: 4; Page: 2; GSU roll: 543118


No idea if relevant or not but Greenwood family has an Elizabeth Teall b1844 Dublin as a niece

patchem

patchem Report 25 Aug 2014 13:41

They had triplets, who died, according to the information given on the image:

1911 England Census
James Arthur Teall
Age in 1911: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 37 Ashton View
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Boat Builder
Registration district: Leeds Registration District Number: 500 Sub-registration district: North East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 27109
James Arthur Teall 60
Elizabeth Ellen Teall 51 7 children, 4 living
Arthur William 30
Lena Teall 27
Charles Edward Teall 24
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 27109.

Added:
?
Births Sep 1891
TEALL Ernest Leeds 9b 447
TEALL Fred Leeds 9b 446
TEALL Margaret Leeds 9b 447

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:41

http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Henry_Teall_(Ship_Builder)

Henry Teall (Ship Builder)
of Leeds
1806 'Capital New-built Vessels. To be SOLD by AUCTION, By J. Borough, At the Old George Inn, in Briggate Leeds, on Monday the Fifteenth of September Inst at Six o’Clock in the Evening, TWO CAPITAL STAUNCH-BUILT SLOOPS, (the NILE, and the ACORN;) also, ONE HALF SHARE of the SLOOP Venus, built about a Year ago, and in most excellent Condition. The Vessels may be viewed any Time previous to the Sale, near the New Navigation Warehouse, in Water-Lane, Leeds; and further Particulars may be had of the Auctioneer, at his Office, in Kirkgate; of Mr. Henry Teall, of Leeds; or of Mr. Joseph Teall, near Wakefield.' [1]
1832 'HENRY TEALL, Timber Dealer, Boat Builder, Sworn Measurer, and Appraiser, sincerely thanks his Friends for all Favours, and begs to inform them and the Public, that be will, as Commission Agent, engage to value Woods or Vessels, and sell the same by Auction or Private Contract, as may be required. H.T. trusts that his long Experience in Business will be a sufficient Recommendation to secure the Favour of his Friends, as well as a Share of Public Patronage. He has on Sale ONE NEW SLOOP, Six Feet high, fit for the River or Coasting Trade; TWO KEELS, one Six Years old, the other aged ; and TWO OPEN BOATS, on the moderate terms. Dock Lodge, Leeds, December 29, 1831.' [2]
1841 Marriage announcement: 'Jan. 22, at Ford, Northumberland, Mr. H. Teall, of Dublin, son of Mr. Henry Teall, ship builder, of Leeds, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Robert Fluker, of Berwick-on-Tweed.'[3] <<<<<<<<<<
1841 'SHIP CARPENTERS WANTED immediately. Inquire of Mr. Henry Teall, Ship Builder, Leeds, or Mr. Henry Teall, Jun., Brunswick Ship Yard, Dublin. Dublin, October 20th, 1841. [4]
1853 Death announcement: 'Leeds — On Sunday last, aged 76, Mr. Henry Teall, timber merchant and ship builder, of this town.' [5]

See Also
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Sources of Information
? Leeds Intelligencer, 15th September 1806
? Leeds Intelligencer, 12th January 1832
? Leeds Intelligencer, 6th February 1841
? Leeds Mercury, 23rd October 1841
? Leeds Intelligencer, Saturday 19th February 1853

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:43

http://irishwaterwayshistory.com/tag/henry-teall/

Googling Henry Teall brings up lots of interesting results, if you haven't already done so :-)

Gritty

Gritty Report 25 Aug 2014 13:46

Not entirely sure what this is, but found on FMP irish records

Extract from census return of 1851 Transcription:

James Arthur Teall Applicant - -
Henry Teall Father

Full name of applicant James Arthur Teall (2nd Apr 1851)

Relationship Applicant
Address A W Teall, 37 Ashton View, Harehills, Leeds
Country Ireland
Record set Ireland Census search forms 1841 & 1851
Category Census, land & surveys
Collections from Ireland

John

John Report 25 Aug 2014 13:50

Many thanks GlitterBaby and everyone for this, it's looking good. Was this a double wedding? I very much appreciate your kind help. If anything else comes up in the mean time I'd be grateful if you'd let me know.
John :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:57

As per names in my post of 13.41

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
FLUKER Jane Glendale 25 209

TEALL Henry Glendale 25 209

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 13:59

Henry Teall
of Ringsend, Dublin

Son of Henry Teall (Senior)

1841 Started building ships at Brunswick Dockyard (Dublin).

1841 Marriage announcement: 'Jan. 22, at Ford, Northumberland, Mr. H. Teall, of Dublin, son of Mr. Henry Teall, ship builder, of Leeds, to Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Robert Fluker, of Berwick-on-Tweed.'[1]

1846 Birth of son, Alfred Edward, 11th January [2]

1852: Hunt’s Universal Yacht List for 1852 includes 'Henry Teall, Ship Builder, Brunswick Dock Yard, Dublin. Established 1841.' The list includes seven yachts built by Teall, named Brilliant, Rover, Marina, Fairy Queen, Belle, Circe, Trio, from 8 to 60 tons. 'Marina' is described as being 'of novel construction, the bow being extended sufficiently to set the jib without the bowsprit, giving a much finer entrance as well as allowing more beam.'

1853 'Mr. Henry Teall, the eminent ship builder, has been appointed by the Board of Trade shipwright surveyor of steam vessels on the coast of Ireland from Dundalk to Wexford.'[3]

John

John Report 25 Aug 2014 14:00

How can we be sure about the spelling of Teale and Teall? Where did it change?

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Aug 2014 14:06

The enumerators of census will fill in what they 'hear' , and also be aware that the further back you go the less literate people were so spelling of a name can vary a lot.