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Yorkshire records of BMD on line?

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margaret

margaret Report 27 Aug 2014 15:42

I have found an entry for a Huddersfield marriage on Free BMD--- for September 1867 .
This is taken from the index, and gives a choice of partners taken from the entries on the day. I know the spouse. So that's not the problem.
Really what I wanted was to see the entry, address and signatures.

Short of sending for a photocopy of the original, - since some are typed or copied by hand in the present day, is there an alternative?

I believe that the LDS did films of all the Yorkshire parish registers including non - conformists, but these don't seem to be on line anywhere. any suggestions please? :-S

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Aug 2014 15:53

What's the name of the couple, Margaret?

I can then have a look on the ancestry site that I subscribed too and see if there is a marriage for them

margaret

margaret Report 27 Aug 2014 19:26

The names of the couple are Green Senior and Mary Lodge. They are I think Methodists, so it might have taken place in a Methodist Chapel, and not all those records are on line.

I am interested to see if he signed as Green, or some other name. He was baptised Green, and it is not unique, but I thought he may have used a more common name.

thank you

Gee

Gee Report 27 Aug 2014 19:32

Hi Margaret

Not seeing a parish record at Ancestry but this looks like his baptism



West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910


Name:Green Senior

Parish:Emley, St Michael

Baptism Date:19 May 1839

Father's Name:
George Senior <<Weaver

Mother's name:
Elisabeth Senior

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Aug 2014 19:49

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the marriage yet for Green Senior and Mary Lodge but I have found a marriage for Whitfield Senior in 1901 to a Martha Ellen Lodge whose father was Green Senior.

Would this marriage be of interest to you?

Name: Whitfield Senior
Birth Date: abt 1872
Event Type: Marriage
Father: Green Senior
Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1901
Marriage Age: 29
Spouse: Martha Ellen Lodge
Spouse Marriage Age: 29
Archive Location: Wakefield
Parish or Chapel: Mount Pleasant Chapel, Mount Street, Lockwood
Spouse Father: Edward Lodge
Residence Place: Lockwood
Reel Number: Liversedge, Lockwood, Low Moor, Luddenden, Manningham, Marsden, Marsh, Mickletown, Middlestow…; WC11

If so, I can send you the image tomorrow

I will have another more detailed look tomorrow

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:18

Name: Green Senior
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 May 1829
Christening Place: Cumberworth, York, England
Father's Name: Charles Senior
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02397-5 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1542256 , Reference ID: item 3 p 111

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:19

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1867
Registration District: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9A
Page: 484
Line Number: 92

Green Senior probably married one of the following people

Name: Mary Lodge

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:19

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1839
Registration District: Ecclesfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 22
Page: 152
Line Number: 18

Gee

Gee Report 27 Aug 2014 20:20

Whitfield is the son of Green and Mary

Here's the parents marriage as stated by Margaret



Marriages Sep 1867
LODGE Mary Huddersfield 9a 484
SENIOR Green Huddersfield 9a 484




West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985


Name:Whitfield Senior

Birth Date:abt 1872

Event Type:Marriage

Father:Green Senior <<weaver

Marriage Date:18 Aug 1901

Marriage Age:
29

Spouse:Martha Etha Lodge

Spouse Marriage Age:
29

Archive Location:
Wakefield

Parish or Chapel:
Mount Pleasant Chapel, Mount Street, Lockwood

Spouse Father:
Edward Lodge

Residence Place:
Lockwood

Reel Number:
Liversedge, Lockwood, Low Moor, Luddenden, Manningham, Marsden, Marsh, Mickletown, Middlestow…; WC11

Reference Number:
C111/511


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:20

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1841
Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 22
Page: 95
Line Number: 9

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:20

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1903
Registration District: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 64
Birth Year (Estimated): 1839
Volume: 9A
Page: 212
Line Number: 180

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:20

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Birthplace: Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ecclesfield
Sub-District: High Hoyland
Parish: High Hoyland
County: Yorkshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Aug 2014 20:21

Name: Green Senior
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Birthplace: Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ecclesfield
Sub-District: High Hoyland
Parish: Silkstone
County: Yorkshire

margaret

margaret Report 27 Aug 2014 20:33

Thank you all. I have most of this information, I was keen to see how he wrote his name, as later in 1920 in Canada his son Wesley, gives it as George Senior, and his mother as Mary Lodge. on his own marriage record in Toronto.
Which makes it difficult to be sure of the relationship.
This may be-- as Green was known to his friends and family of course, as George, and officially he was Green.
OR it could be part of Wesley's evasiveness.

thank you for your help

Gee

Gee Report 27 Aug 2014 20:50

Name: Wesley Senior
Birth: Jul 1874 - Huddersfield, Yorkshire West Riding

Name: Whitfield Senior
Birth: Apr 1872 - Huddersfield, Yorkshire West Riding


Two different people

margaret

margaret Report 27 Aug 2014 22:37

Wesley was the younger brother of Whitefield both sons of Green Senior.
Whitefield stayed in Huddersfield and died there in 1951.
The other brother- Wesley, I think died in Canada in 1947.

It is the identity of this Canadian Wesley I am trying to establish. On a marriage in 1920 in Toronto, he gives his father as George Senior and his mother as Mary Lodge.
But he also says that he was born in Stroud, Gloucester.
However there doesn't appear to be anyone of name Senior registered at Stroud in this period.

So a bit of a puzzle.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2014 04:55

Margaret,


I'm afraid that you will have to buy that marriage certificate if you want to see how Green signed .................... it might be possible to tell from the copy of the original that you will get.


Your best alternative actually is to find out where the Parish Records are kept and go there in person.


All we see on the internet are copies also ............... which is different from what you seem to want.

Gee

Gee Report 28 Aug 2014 07:14

It looks like Wesley's grandfather was called George so there could be some confusion around that.

Also 'Green' could have been mistranscribed as 'George'

margaret

margaret Report 28 Aug 2014 07:36

Yes I wondered if that was the only way.

Some of the on line copies of the parish registers are taken from the films made originally by the Mormon church- of the actual registers, where the people concerned signed the sheet. and these in some districts held by the local record office, perhaps that's the way to go.

Thank you all for your input.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Aug 2014 08:16

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------
Palfreyman Lena Wortley 9c 444
Senior Wesley Wortley 9c 444

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=14120&p=localities.britisles.england.gls.general

(above has mention of 1902)


All Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
Charles Westley Senior Ethel Edith Edwards 31 Mar 1926 York
(as above, but 1920!)

All Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Wesley Senior abt 1875 27 May 1905 Tunisian Montreal, Quebec Liverpool, England

Chris :)