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Hi Lucy,
I asked a friend to check the 1911 census for me and she said the landlord had changed by 1914 to Alfred Hodnett so she searched for him on the 1911 and here he is at 98 Gifford Street – its described as an off licence so there aren’t any lodgers.
At least it's another one for me to eliminate!
Regards June

Hi Lucy,
I checked the Thurrock one a few days ago and it is definitely not my Alice. The Thurrock one was born in Purfleet. I still have to check 98 Gifford Street, which sounds promising, I will try looking on Freecen as I don't have a sub to ancestry or FMP.
Thanks again from June

1939 register also has an Alice E Piggott living in Thurrock U.D, Essex and born 1868. Also living with her is Sarah G Mawis (Mewis born 1859) )

Someone previously mentioned on here an Alice Piggott at 98 Gifford Street, Caledonian Road. .It was a pub so she may have lived in living quarters.
The landlord in 1910 was Batchelor Horace Henry, so might be worth checking 1911 census to see if any Alice E Piggott listed, just a thought?

Hi Lucy,
I checked again on family search for the marriage and then the 1901 census and it definitely is not the right Alice,her age is out by two years which is no big deal but her place of birth is Sydenham, Kent.
Back to the drawing board :-)

Have you checked that the birth date and place of birth on the Thomas Henry Whitehouse marriage has not been misscribed? For example the wrong line written down and someone else on the marriage page given Alices details?

Hi Lucy,
Thank you so much for the link - what fascinating reading and maybe Alice was a suffragette which would explain why she is not on the 1911. It really is all about lateral thinking isn't it. I still feel deep down she probably just moved in with someone and took his surname though, but it's certainly food for thought. I am extremely grateful for all your imput.
Regards June :-)

This is helpful reading
http://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/blog/missing-from-the-census/

Have you thought Alice could have been listed as a missing person if she went to help in the Boer war. Nothing conclusive from my search though.

Hi Lucy,
Yes, I have those deaths and a picture of the grave and yes, they were the in laws.
I shall check the electoral registers for Chalfont Road Islington - can you search by place do you know or only by persons name? I don't have a sub to Find my Past at the moment.
Best wishes :-)

Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
Brown Henry Charles 56 Wandsworth 1d 371

Deaths Mar 1923
BROWN Emily M 56 Wandsworth 1d 514

Deaths Jun 1927
Piggott Claude J K 38 Wandsworth 1d 406

All buried in the same grave :-0

Here is Claude James Kennett Piggotts grave. It is in Wandsworth cemetry and he was buried with Emily Maria Brown and Henry Charles Brown who were probably his in laws as his wife was Nellie Brown

http://billiongraves.com/record/Claude-James-Kennett-Piggott/804875#given_names=Claude&family_names=Piggott

But no mention of his Mother Alice so the mystery is still not solved.

Was the last known address the Chalford Road, Islington address where she lived as you have said with her son Alexander. What was the house number and have you searched for this on census returns and electoral registers to see how long they stayed. If the house is still in existance there may he deeds which have information.

Hi Lucy,
I remember checking out Thomas Henry Whitehouse, and his Alice Emily and he was not the correct one as the birth date and place did not tally with my Alice. It is so frustrating, I just feel she is out there somewhere, but I agree with you I think she just lived with someone else after James and took their surname.
Thank you so much for all your interest, I really, really appreciate it. :-D

But may rule out Harry Russell Thatcher depending if the following is correct
http://www.home-computer.co.uk/gedpage/fam/fam00141.htm
So back to where was Alice Emily Piggott in 1901/1911?

My guess is she was living with another man and faked her name!
:-D

Could she have remarried a Harry Russel Thatcher rather than Mr Whitehouse in 1898? There is an Alice Thatcher born 1868 and living in Hampstead on the 1901 census but can't view census to see who the husband is.

ALICE EMILY PIGGOTT
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
England
County
London
Year
1898
District
LEWISHAM

Hi Lucy,
I have not been able to open the signature - is it meant to be in the little envelope? It's a brilliant idea as I will be able to match it with the one on her wedding certificate. It is interesting that you found James still living at 2 Downshire Hill - he was there for the 1891 census but by 1901 he was living at 99 Fernhead Road, Paddington, London.
Hopefully I will be able to see the signature if not I could give you my email. :-)

1939 register has an Alice E Piggott born in 1868 but in Thurrock U.D rather than Islington.

Just to add that there is an electoral register showing your James Kennett Piggott on familysearch.org.uk. He was living at 2 Downshire Hill in 1894 & 1895 as shown on the electoral registers in the borough of Hamstead. Dwelling house (service)

Strange though as I cannot find a marriage on the freebmd website at anytime between Alice E ?? and Henry Piggott.

Just to add, Alice I have was also at 1 Hamburgh Place 1911, with Tom Starkes age 13, as Thos Sparkes age 3, 1901)

Good luck with research on your Alice E Piggott as you say probably just a coincidence. If you need a signature of the Alice E Piggott I have just to eliminate for certain, I have a copy.
:-)