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Births Sep 1926

Ritchie Jessie E Larkin W. Ham 4a 301


Marriages Mar 1950

Blooman John P Ritchie Stepney 5d 1265
Ritchie Jessie E Blooman Stepney 5d 1265

Up until his death in1941 -


Deaths Dec 1941

Eaton Daniel 80 Stepney 1c 172

Daniel and Jessie Eaton were living (from about the date of their marriage) at 104 Grove Buildings, Stepney.

In 1946 (after Daniel's death) Jessie Eaton was living at the same address with a Jessie RITCHIE (possibly her granddaughter?)

Jessie Eaton was still at the property in 1951 and this looks to be her death in 1954


Deaths Dec 1954

EATON Jessie E 81 Stepney 5d 511

I don't think that James on the 1881 census is your Alfred's father.

Wondering if Ritchie was perhaps a stepfather's name?

I would also wonder at Jessie re-marrying using her maiden surname. Would it not have been usual, in England, for her to marry as Jessie Ritchie?

Again in England, was it not necessary to have the permission of a parent or guardian to marry if you were under 21? Just thinking out loud, Alfred claimed to be 21 when he married, but was he? Jessie may have stated she was an orphan as neither had permission to marry?

They are on ancestry - I don't know if they are available elsewhere though. The one I posted was the only record coming up or him.

Flip please could you tell me how to get school records ( Alfred Ritchie) :-D

James Ritchie was the Slater in 1881 Scottish census and on Alfred Ritchie marriage certificate has his father as a Slater.
Flip when cash available I will get Jessie's birth certificate in Brighton, have got on all ref details.
Many thanks everyone

Martha died as a baby, I have quite a few parish records.
I'm loving his school records, haven't got any of these for my family's, must get more if I can with xmss pres.
The house is all upside down at moment,
But will get all paper work out hopefully this weekend, to search middle name documents.
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dogsB, sorry but I find it really difficult to follow your posts.

However, where have you got the information he had a middle name - he didn't on 1891 or 1901 census, nor his marriage nor his children's christenings. I would have thought if he had a middle name (as Jessie did) it would show up on one of these records.

And he didn't use a middle name when he enroled his son very briefly (he left 26/10/99) in this school:

Alfred Jas Ritchie
Age:6
Birth Date:5 Sep 1892
School:Plumstead High Street School
Borough:Greenwich
Admission Date:3 Jul 1899
Parent:Alfred
Notes:High Street School, Plumstead (0783) opened in 1893. Renamed Plumstead High Street School in 1921, then Bannockburn School in 1951
Reference Number:LCC/EO/DIV06/HIG2/AD/001

Their address from this was 186 High Street.

Name: Martha Frances Ritchie
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1893
Father's Name: Alfred Ritchie
Mother's name: Jessie Emma Ritchie
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich Holy Trinity
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: Martha Frances Ritchie
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 752

Sorry message are delayed husband just home lol

Have marriage certificate for Alfred and Jessie.
Son Alfred was in army in1991 not sure about his mother Jessie.
Jessie marriage was to Daniel he was also on Alfred's and to Elizabeth Minnie Larkin who died and he married Florence Margarette Robinson in 1930.

The father Alfred's occupation was labourer in arsenel on both children's christenings - on the 1891 census (born Glasgow) he was a labourer (GL) not a slater. I would be pretty sure it is him - address is a boarding house 11 Rope Yard ? - both their addresses were Rope Yard at the time of their marriage.

On both christenings she is recorded as Jessie Emma Ritchie, and I think she was born 1873 Redhills, Reigate Surrey. in 1881 she was living in Brighton - a neice of Corneleus John Hilland, so if that was where she was brought up she may have put that as place of birth.

Thanks Choccy

So how is that thought to be Jessie RITCHIE?

First name(s)
DANIEL
Last name
EATON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1913

MarriageFinder™ DANIEL EATON married
JESSIE CHAMBERS

Spouse's last name
CHAMBERS
District
STEPNEY

Volume 1C
Page 466

Record set
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

WHERE and WHEN did Jessie marry EATON?

You must back up your statements............

The 1892 marriage has NO second names for either of the couple, so please tell us why you think they have any?

And please answer the question about the whereabouts of Jessie and son in 1911...........

It's important

OK so much to take in ,james Ritchie born in Glasgow on 1881 Scottish census occupation Slater, and on on Alfred james Ritchie, marrige born Scotland around 1873 wife Jessie Emma chamber, there son was also named Alfred james Ritchie who married twice in his life. Jessie went on to marry Mr Eaton.

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1309051?d=asc

(started off in Scotland on above!, relating?)

Chris :)

The probate I posted was for this Alfred James Ritchie......


1911 England Census
about Alfred James Ritchie Name:Alfred James Ritchie
Age in 1911:44
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Minster
Civil Parish:Lambeth
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:108 Herne Hill S E <<<<<
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:WHOLESALE NEWS AGENT
Registration district:Lambeth
Registration District Number:25
Sub-registration district:Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel:38
Piece:2087

Household Members:

Alfred James Ritchie 44
Edith Ritchie 40
Violet Edith Ritchie 14
Alfred Raymand Ritchie 12
Mabel Rosie Ritchie 10
Gilbert Victor Ritchie 7
Leonard Charles Ritchie 5
Geoffrey Oscar Ritchie 3
Lily Amelia Ritchie 2
Annie Read 17
Alice Maud Forey 16

So no........not yours.

Prickles. x

Who did Jessie marry 'after 1916'?

I can't see any marriage for a Jessie Ritchie without a second initial before 1923, other than one in Gateshead, which seems unlikely

The son seems to have married in 1916

Where were Jessie and the son in 1911?