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There is a possible marriage for them in Warrington (previously posted) Simpson/Simpson - so maybe they did it out of area? And Jacqueline is right it was not legal to marry your brother-in-law at the time.

Probably someone will correct me if I am wrong but I think it was not legal to marry a deceased spouses sibling at that time. Possibly Joseph and Ann never married but still has the same surname.

Don't worry about time differences Carole, there's always someone around on here :-D

Thanks to all for finding all this info on George Simpson. You have
confirmed so much of what I thought was correct, but you have opened
a can of worms with the mention of another wife Ann.
I also think it was George's mother Mary who died in 1847.

Wow I can't believe there's so much help out there, even though I have been a member for some time, it was my first time on the Community site and I didn't know what to expect.

Sorry I didn't reply sooner but I am in Australia, about eleven hours time difference. Thanks again Pom

In the 1851 ...... Thomas Simpson was born in Wellington, Somerset about 1843


could this be his baptism, and therefore could James Simpson be Joseph's brother?

from freereg


County Somerset
Place Wellington
Church St John
RegisterNumber 975
DateOfBirth 15 Aug 1842
BaptismDate 04 Sep 1842
Forename Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename James
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname SIMPSON
MotherSurname
Abode Wellington
FatherOccupation Husbandman
Notes
FileNumber 17234




incidentally ............... that is the first time I have ever found anything on FreeReg ............. I'm usually completely unsuccessful :-D

you have been working hard!!

I too spotted Joseph Simpson with sister-in-law Ann on the 1851 ............. but was too tired to try to sort it out :-)

There's also a christening 25/2/1852 in Middlewich for Sarah Simpson (possibly the child on 1851 census), naming father Joseph & mother Ann.

I've just noticed this is Carole's first post.....I'll send a PM to let her know there are replies on her thread.

There are christenings in Middlewich for Mary (3/9/1855) and James (13/9/1856), both giving father Joseph and mother Ann. There is also one for John 19/4/1859 naming same parents.

So if this is the same Joseph, he buried first wife Mary in 1847, then married again after 1851 to an ANN, then again in 1860 to Elizabeth Jackson. So I'm guessing Ann must have died 1859/60.

This could be a possibility??

Ann Simpson
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 02 May 1860
Event Place: , Middlewich, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Age (Formatted): 46y

Added: This could also be the widow Ann Simpson from the 1851 census - he was recorded as her brother in law, but I wonder?? It wouldn't be the first time a widow got together with her dead husbands brother. The only marriage I can see in Cheshire for a Joseph to an Ann is in 1847 in Warrington - and she is Ann Simpson.

Marriages Sep 1860
Burgess Mary Northwich 8a 355
COOPER Joseph Northwich 8a 355
xxxJackson Elizabeth Northwich 8a 355
xxxSimpson Joseph Northwich 8a 355

So also married just after 1851, and that wife died, so wrong person?

1861 England Census
Joseph Simpson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Simpson
Gender: Male Where born: Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Kinderton with Hulme Ecclesiastical parish: Middlewich
County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Northwich Sub-registration district: Middlewich
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 27 Piece: 2607 Folio: 55 Page Number: 5
Joseph Simpson 40
Elizabeth Simpson 29
Mary Simpson 7 daughter Newton
James Simpson 5 son Newton
Arthur Jackson 4 stepson Kinderton
John Simpson 2 son Newton
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2607; Folio: 55; Page: 5; GSU roll: 542998.

Added:
Newton is probably a hamlet in Middlewich

I looked at the same one Pat, but not sure....however, there's this one in 1871 which could be the same guy:

Joseph Simpson
Age:52
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1819
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Elizabeth Simpson
Gender:Male
Where born:Middlewich, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish:Kinderton
Ecclesiastical parish:Middlewich
Town:Middlewich
County/Island:Cheshire
Country:England
Registration district:Northwich
Sub-registration district:Middlewich
ED, institution, or vessel:6
Household schedule number:76
Piece:3700
Folio:95
Page Number:14
Household Members:NameAge

Joseph Simpson 52
Elizabeth Simpson 37
John Simpson 12
William Simpson 8

I wondered if this is George's father, Joseph, but it says 'unmarried' not 'widower' on the image.
His birthplace could be Kinderton not Hinderton.

1851 England Census
Joseph Simpson Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Brother-in-law Gender: Male
Where born: Hinderton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Newton County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Street address: Brooks Lane
Registration district: Northwich Sub-registration district: Over
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 2166 Folio: 310 Page Number: 17
Ann Simpson 37 widow Bolton, York
Thomas Simpson 9 Wellington, Somerset
Sarah Simpson 8 Mo Newton cheshire
xxx Joseph Simpson 35
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2166; Folio: 310; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87150.

Added:
Just seen Flip's posting of his age at marriage - so should be 32/33 in 1851

Added:
Thomas's probable birth, if needed:
Births Sep 1842
Simpson Thomas Wellington S 10 435

For a better idea of his age:

Joseph Simpson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Jul 1840
Event Place: , Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted): 22y
Father's Name:Thomas Simpson
Spouse's Name:Mary Bastervile
Spouse's Father's Name:George Bastervile

GS Film number:1941925 ,Digital Folder Number:004018703 ,Image Number: 00100

Actually, the cheshirebmd site may be wrong - recording the age for the 1847 death as there is this burial:

Mary Simpson
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 30 Mar 1847
Event Place: , Church Hulme, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Age (Formatted): 26y

GS Film number:2262707 ,Digital Folder Number:004019138 ,Image Number: 00599

George Baskerville
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 11 Sep 1872
Event Place: Church Hulme, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age: 83


Martha Baskerville
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 01 Apr 1872
Event Place: Church Hulme, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Age: 79

George Baskerville
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Feb 1820
Event Place: Sandbach, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name:Martha Lownds

GS Film number:1751911 ,Digital Folder Number:004018545 ,Image Number: 00628

From familysearch.org:

Mary Baskerville
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 25 Mar 1821
Event Place: Church-Hulme, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name:George Baskerville
Mother's Name:Martha

GS Film number:1655594 ,Digital Folder Number:004003798 ,Image Number: 00290

bed for me!!!


I'll hope you've found more by the time I get up :-)

I can't however find Joseph and Mary together after 1841 ......


..... and Elizabeth, age 10, is already out at work, as a Servant, in the 851.

Flip .................


thank you!