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Blaine
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1 Nov 2014 16:38 |
From the 1901 and 1911 census Charles Edward Owles b. 1869 Norwich Norfolk he is married in both censuses to a Florence E. _____ born c. 1873 Devon Devonshire
I cannot find the marriage... wonder if they did marry? Says they are married for about 11 years in the 1911 census... They have an adopted daughter in the 1911 census.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help...
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 16:56 |
For location
1901 England Census Name: Florence E Owles Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Charles E Owles Birth Place: Devon, England Civil Parish: Stretford Ecclesiastical parish: Whalley Range St Margaret County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Barton upon Irwell Sub-registration district: Stretford
Charles E Owles 33 Florence E Owles 28 Reuben T Shenton 21
1911 England Census Name: Florence Owles Age in 1911: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Devon, Devonshire Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 6 Deanery Road, Stratford E Marital Status: Married Years Married: 11 Estimated Marriage Year: 1900 Registration district: West Ham Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration district: Stratford
Charles Owles 40 Florence Owles 36 Florence Owles Mackenzie 9/12 Herbert Creek 35 Frank S Linegar 24 Florence C Sharp
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 17:21 |
I can't see a marriage either. They seemed to move around a bit too didn't they!
Have you managed to find deaths for them? Did consider these, but it's probably a step too far! And it assumes Florence's middle initial has been mis-transcribed.
Name: Charles E Owles Birth Date: abt 1870 Date of Registration: Mar 1948 Age at Death: 78 Registration district: Wallasey Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 10a Page: 656
Name: Florence C Owles Birth Date: abt 1875 Date of Registration: Jun 1928 Age at Death: 53 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 646
Name: Florence Owles Linacre Birth Date: 10 Jul 1910 Date of Registration: Mar 1982 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Merseyside Volume: 37 Page: 0613
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1 Nov 2014 17:24 |
I am guessing this is the adopted daughter, doesn't help one jot though.
Births Sep 1910 (>99%) MACKENZIE Florence O Lambeth 1d 335
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Blaine
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1 Nov 2014 17:25 |
yes have the deaths.. thx
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+++DetEcTive+++
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1 Nov 2014 17:28 |
Did consider this one - the upstrokes of of a hand written W could be incorrectly transcibed as 2 x l However, there is no way Edward could turn into Wright!
Disclaimer - None of the names have been followed through to census etc
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%) EATON Minnie Edmonton HARRISON William Thomas Edmonton >>>MASKELL Florence Edmonton 3a 895 >>>Ollis Charles Wright Edmonton 3a 895
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 17:29 |
OK, so have you got Florence's middle name in that case, from the death cert?
I assume this is their adopted daughter:
Marriages Sep 1936 Linacre Ronald S Owles Wallasey 8a 1853 Owles Florence K Linacre Wallasey 8a 1853
Name: Florence Owles Linacre Birth Date: 10 Jul 1910 Date of Registration: Mar 1982 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Merseyside Volume: 37 Page: 0613
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Nov 2014 17:35 |
Burial Register summary
Owles Florence Cecilia Burial date 11 April 1928 Authority Trafford Council Location Stretford Cemetery (Greater Manchester)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
Chris :)
edits
Births Sep 1874 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- OWLES Florence Cecilia Chorlton 8c 794
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 OWLES Florence Cecilia Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/181/31
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1928 OWLES Florence Cecilia 53 Wallasey Wirral WAL/89/38
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(might be above)
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 17:39 |
Nice one Chris!
Maybe?
Births Jun 1876 (>99%) POTTER Florence Cecilia Taunton 5c 380
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 17:40 |
Not the above:
Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%) POTTER Florence Cecilia Taunton 5c 633 RICHMOND Ernest Webber Taunton 5c 633 Spiller Bessie Taunton 5c 633 WARE Joe Taunton 5c 633
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brummiejan
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1 Nov 2014 17:49 |
Blaine, I would recommend you get the death cert to ascertain her middle name. I can't find a marriage for them, maybe someone else will have more luck. Jan
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Andrew
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1 Nov 2014 17:59 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Florence Cecilia Owles
Name:Florence Cecilia Owles Probate Date:12 Jun 1928 Death Date:8 Apr 1928 Death Place:Cheshire, England Registry: London, England
of 21 Stanley Avenue, Walleslay to Mary Dorothy Owles Spinster Effects £1440
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Nov 2014 17:59 |
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1936 LINACRE Ronald Stanley OWLES Florence Katharine New Brighton, St. James' Church Wirral C8/5/69
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
Chris :)
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 11:58 |
What maiden surname is shown on the tree?
Where do you get the info that Florence had married someone else before moving in with Owles?
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Andrew
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2 Nov 2014 12:06 |
Just looking through the records...
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1870 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vogwill Florence Ellen Stoke D. 5b 339
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 12:15 |
Good find, Andy!
Based on that...........
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Duke Street, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Vogwill Head - Male 46 1825 - Devon, England Transcription Mary A Vogwill Wife - Female 40 1831 - Devon, England Transcription Mary A Vogwill Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Devon, England Transcription Sebina Vogwill Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Devon, England Transcription William Vogwill Son - Male 14 1857 - Devon, England Transcription Emily Vogwill Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Devon, England Transcription John Vogwill Son - Male 9 1862 - Devon, England Transcription Fredrick Vogwill Son - Male 7 1864 - Devon, England Transcription James Vogwill Son - Male 5 1866 - Devon, England Transcription Annie Vogwill Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Devon, England Transcription Florence Vogwill Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Devon, England Transcription Mary Martin Visitor - Female 25 1846 - Devon, England Transcription
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 12:23 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29, Duke Street, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Vogwill Head Married Male 60 1821 Dairyman Devon, England Transcription Mary A Vogwill Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Devon, England Transcription William Vogwill Son Single Male 25 1856 Shipwright Devonport, Devon, England Transcription Fred Vogwill Son Single Male 18 1863 Smith Devonport, Devon, England Transcription James Vogwill Son Single Male 15 1866 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription Selina Vogwill Daughter Single Female 28 1853 Dressmaker Devonport, Devon, England Transcription Annie Vogwill Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription Flora Vogwill Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Transcription William Kendle Lodger Married Male 72 1809 Pensioner Stonehouse, Devon, England
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 12:25 |
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
Austin William George Stoke Damerel 5b 692 GANNON Francis George Stoke D. 5b 692 Prynn Maud Mary Stoke D. 5b 692 Vogwill Florence Stoke D. 5b 692
Confirmation of who married whom
First name(s) Francis G Last name Gannon Marriage year 1888 Marriage date 22 Jun 1888 Spouse's first name(s) Florence Spouse's last name Vogwill County Devon Country Great Britain Division Plymouth Series ADM 184 Piece 44 Record set British Royal Marines, marriage registers 1813-1920 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 12:27 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Emma Place, East Stonehouse, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Francis G Gannon Head Married Male 29 1862 Sergeant R Marine L ? Salford, Lancashire, England Transcription Florence Gannon Wife Married Female 20 1871 - Devonport, Devon, England
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Jacqueline
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2 Nov 2014 12:30 |
Deaths Dec 1945 (>99%) Gannon Francis G 85 Manchester 8d 207
First name(s) Francis Last name Gannon Relationship - Marital status Single Gender Male Age 21 Birth year 1860 Occupation Private Royal Marines Light Infantry Birth town Salford Birth town as transcribed SALFORD Birth county Lancashire Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE Birth place England House name Indus Street - Town - Parish Devonport Stoke-Damerel County Devon Country England Registration district Stoke-Damerel Archive reference RG11 Piece number 2214 Folio 139 Page 17 Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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