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1861 England Census about Elizabeth Lilly
Name: Elizabeth Lilly
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Lilly
Mother's name: Alice Lilly
Gender: Female
Where born: Coppull, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Coppull
Ecclesiastical parish: Coppull
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 158
Piece: 3122
Folio: 66
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Lilly 28
Alice Lilly 24
Ellen Lilly 11
Elizabeth Lilly 4
Jane Lilly 2

Which child of Joseph and Elizabeth is your Great Grandparent??

Or did you mean that finding them BEFORE the marriage is proving to be a problem?

This might be Elizabeth. Fathers occ. correct. Pointsman

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Silley




Name:Elizabeth Silley[Elizabeth Lilly
] Age:11
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1860
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Samuel Silley
Mother's name:Alice Silley
Gender:Female
Where born:Coppul, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Coppull
Ecclesiastical parish:Coppull
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Chorley
Sub-registration district:Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel:19
Household schedule number:13
Piece:4199
Folio:123
Page Number:3
Household Members:
Name
Age


Samuel Silley 38
Alice Silley 36
Ellen Silley 16
Elizabeth Silley 11
Jane Silley 10
James Silley 9
Joshua Silley 5
Alice Silley 2
Mary A Silley 1 Month

Andy

This one then:


1871 England Census about Elizabeth Silley
Name: Elizabeth Silley
[Elizabeth Lilly]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Silley
Mother's name: Alice Silley
Gender: Female
Where born: Coppul, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Coppull
Ecclesiastical parish: Coppull
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 4199
Folio: 123
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Silley 38, railway pointsman
Alice Silley 36
Ellen Silley 16
Elizabeth Silley 11
Jane Silley 10
James Silley 9
Joshua Silley 5
Alice Silley 2
Mary A Silley 1 Month

Name is Lilley on original and Elizabeth is 14 not 11.

I have Mary Lilley Shuttleworth 1886-1970 daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth (nee Lilley) 1856. Elizabeth 1856 daughter of Samuel 1833

Could it be that she lied about her age because she was older than Joseph?


1871 England Census about Elizabeth Lilley
Name: Elizabeth Lilley
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Lilley
Mother's name: Jane Lilley
Gender: Female
Where born: Coppul, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Coppull
Ecclesiastical parish: Coppull
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 4199
Folio: 124
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lilley 56
Jane Lilley 55
Peter Lilley 38
William Lilley 21
Elizabeth Lilley 19
James Lilley 16
Henry Lilley 14

Edit: Oops! No, father's name is wrong.

1871 England Census about Joseph Shuttleworth
Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Shuttleworth
Mother's name: Betty Shuttleworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bedford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedford
Town: Green Lane End
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Culcheth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 3911
Folio: 59
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Shuttleworth 47
Betty Shuttleworth 47
Thomas Shuttleworth 21
Mores Shuttleworth 19
Joseph Shuttleworth 14
William Shuttleworth 11
James Shuttleworth 9
Richard Shuttleworth 7

Possible?


1881 England Census about Joseph Shuttleworth
Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Shuttleworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 46 Bamber St
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Iron Dresser
Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Bolton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3843
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shuttleworth 24, born Bolton, Lancs
Elizabeth Shuttleworth 24, born Coppall, Lancs

Just for ref from Lancs OPC:
Marriage: 28 Dec 1878 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Joseph Shuttleworth - (X), 22, Moulder, Bachelor, Anderton Street
Elizabeth Lilley - 22, Weaver, Spinster, Moor Road
Groom's Father: Joseph Shuttleworth, Dresser
Bride's Father: Samuel Lilley, Points Man
Witness: William Shuttleworth, (X); Jane Lilley
Married by Banns by: John Stock
Register: Marriages 1873 - 1883, Page 166, Entry 332
Source: LDS Film 1526078

Maureen

I have found the marriage of my 2x great grandparents on my Paternal side. But finding them afterwards is proving a problem

Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Lilley
Event Date: 28 Dec 1878
Event Place: Saint George, Chorley, Lancashire, England