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Helen

Helen Report 30 Nov 2014 22:53

I'm looking for information about Norah J Cottle born 1898c and died 1945. She was married to Harold Camden who was born in Worcester in 1900. I've hit a brick wall and can't find any more information about her.

Any help much appreciated thanks Helen

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Nov 2014 22:59

What information about her father was on the marriage certificate please?

Harold Camden
Spouse Surname: Cottle, Norah J
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 375

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Nov 2014 23:11

I wonder if she was a little older than she let on?

Name: Norah Julia Cottle
Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1894
Baptism Place: Bristol, St Simon, Gloucestershire, England
Father: George Joseph Colston Cottle
Mother: Bessie Julia Cottle
FHL Film Number: 4242595

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 30 Nov 2014 23:32

Baptism and Marriage of parents.... Norah Julia Cottle


George Joseph Colston Cottle

England Births and Christenings

Name: George Joseph Colston Cottle
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 May 1867
Christening Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1867
Father's Name: George Cottle
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02085-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596780 , Reference ID: item 2 p 32




George Joseph Colston Cottle

mentioned in the record of George Joseph Colston Cottle and Bessie Julia Ridd

Name: George Joseph Colston Cottle
Birth Date: 1864
Age: 23
Spouse's Name: Bessie Julia Ridd
Spouse's Birth Date: 1862
Spouse's Age: 25
Event Date: 22 Aug 1887
Event Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: George Cottle
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Ridd

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17278-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1596484 , Reference ID: p14 cn28

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:01

Could the enumerator have mis-heard her name as Laura instead of Norah?


1901 England Census about Laura J Cottle
Name: Laura J Cottle
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: George J Cottle
Mother: Bessie J Cottle
Birth Place: Bristol
Civil Parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Easton St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2388
Folio: 160
Page Number: 30
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members:
Name Age
George J Cottle 35
Bessie J Cottle 38
Myra G Cottle 11
Henry A Cottle 10
Laura J Cottle 8
Amy C Cottle 7

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2014 00:11

Name: Sidney George Cottle
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Jan 1897
Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1896
Father's Name: George Jpseph Cottle
Mother's Name: Bessie Julia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:14

Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
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COTTLE George Joseph C Bristol 6a 2a
RIDD Bessie Julia Bristol 6a 2a

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 1 Dec 2014 00:20

7 children born to the Camden/Cottle marriage.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:21


1891 England Census about George Colston Cottle
Name: George Colston Cottle
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Julia Cottle
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cottle
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol
Civil Parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1980
Folio: 57
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
George Colston Cottle 23
Julia Cottle 25
Elizabeth Cottle 63
Arthur Cottle 11
Mera E Cottle 1

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:27

Possible death of George?

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
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COTTLE George Joseph 41 Bristol 6a 58

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:30

Remarriage of Bessie?

Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
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COTTLE Bessie Julia Bristol 6a 426
DOWSING Frederick Bristol 6a 426
GOLDING Ellen Bristol 6a 426
TANZELL Henry Bristol 6a 426

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Dec 2014 00:39

So she married Henry Tanzell and the girls now have Henry's surname and Laura J. is going by her second name Julie. Percival must also be the son of George & Bessie.


1911 England Census about Bessie Tanzell
Name: Bessie Tanzell
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Challacombe, Devon
Civil Parish: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: 13 Walpole St, Bristol
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1909
Registration district: Bristol
Registration District Number: 319
Sub-registration district: St Philip and St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 263
Piece: 15002
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Tanzell 63
Bessie Tanzell 49
Julia Tanzell 17
Amy Tanzell 16
Percival Tanzell 5

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2014 00:42

1871 Census....

Richard Ridd Self M 43 Challacombe, Devonshire
Julia Ridd Wife F 46 East Down, Devonshire
William Henry Ridd Son M 18 Challacombe, Devonshire
Mary Grace Ridd Daughter F 17 Challacombe, Devonshire
John Charles Ridd Son M 11 Challacombe, Devonshire
Bessie Julia Ridd Daughter F 9 Challacombe, Devonshire

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2014 00:43

Name: Bessie Julia Ridd
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Challacombe, Devonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Barnstaple
Sub-District: Parracombe
Parish: Challacombe
County: Devonshire

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 1 Dec 2014 00:46

1881..Still living with parents...

Name: Bessie J Ridd
Age (Original): 19
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1862
Birthplace: Challacombe, Devon, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Address: Dairy 7 Russell Place
Event Place: Ss James And Paul (United Out), Gloucestershire, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2485 / 54
Page Number: 18

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 1 Dec 2014 09:27

Pity Helen didn't stay online for a wee bit. I just hope that is the correct family after all your work ladies :-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 1 Dec 2014 13:09

Hello Helen and welcome to the Community boards.



(This was Helen's first post - I'll let her know how to find her replies... ) :-)

Helen

Helen Report 2 Dec 2014 20:51

Hi all sorry I'm new to the site had a very Helpful message from Cynthia and now know how to check for replies. Thanks again Cynthia. NORAH J

Last Name COTTLE
Gender Female
Year 1919
Spouse CAMDEN
Image Quarter 4
Country England
County Worcestershire
District WORCESTER
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 6C
Page 375
Line Number 64
This is the info off the marriage certificate. Her name was definitely Norah as I know this from my late Nan. After speaking to my Mum last night she thinks there my be an Irish connections with Norah Cottle.

Helen

Helen Report 2 Dec 2014 21:01

Norah Cottle died in 1945 I believe she was killed in a road accident. The records show she was born in 1898.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Dec 2014 23:05

Thanks for coming back Helen.

The details you have given above for the marriage is actually the information from the GRO marriage index. You really need to order the marriage certificate to find the name and occupation of her father that she gave when she married.

Index ref. for her death

Name: Norah J Camden
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jun 1945
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 135


Remember that the information regarding age on a death certificate is only as good as the informant's knowledge. If Norah was a wee bit older than her husband she may well have knocked a couple of years off her age for the sake of appearances.

As far as the Irish connection is concerned, I did check the Irish indexes for a birth but didn't see one. I would agree though that Norah is a more common given name in Ireland. Perhaps she was named for a Grandmother or Great Grandmother as, if we have the correct Norah neither of her parents seem to be born in Ireland.

Do you know what your Norah's middle name was please?