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There is an article in the Lincolnshire Chronicle 1855,

Roger Crisp of Peterboro got assulted,

later in 1863 a Roger Howell Crisp a flour maker of Lincoln went bankrupt,,,,,,,but this man doesnt appear on any cencus or dying as Roger Howell Crisp.



Millicent Crisp 1873 death of Millicent Crisp age 60 at Wisbech wife of Roger Crisp a comercial traveler ?

Yes I agree with you Mary... I believe she was a widow
in the 1871 census...

Would be interesting to see 1873 Death Cert., details...

Chris :)

1871 for wife Millicent,diffinately looks like W for widow to me.
Especially when you compare the other Mar /W .



Maryb.

(think below Robert confuses, he is a Surgeon, same as Frederick Fawssett, on Probate entry.

http://www.rippington.me.uk/multimedia/Crisford%20(Robert)%201873%20Probate.pdf


Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%)
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Crisp Robert Hetley Nth Witchford 14 163
Fitzjohn Alice North Witchford 14 163


Deaths Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Crisp Robert Hetley Whittlesey 3b 383


20 May 1892 - Northampton Mercury - Northampton, Northamptonshire

Marriage
Crisp—Buckle.—May 17, at Peterborough, Edward, son of the late R. H. Crisp, M.R.C.S., Whittlesey, to Maud, daughter of F. G. Buckle.


Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
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Crisp Edward Whittlesey 3b 581

Chris :)


(Parents of Roger)

10 December 1819 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire.

Marriage
Yesterday, at Peterborough, Mr. Wm. Crisp, draper, lo Catherine eldest daughter Mr. Buckle, brewer, of that city.


Deaths Dec 1854 (>99%)
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Crisp William Peterbro' 3b 154


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D49806

(his Will above)


25 November 1854 - Cambridge Independent Press - Cambridge

Death
Crisp—At Peterborough, on the 20th inst, aged 84, William Crisp, Gent.

04 July 1834 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Marriage
At Wisbech St.. Peter's, on Tuesday last, Mr. Wm. Grounds, son of Thos. Grounds Esq. of Wisbech, to Melicent only daughter of the late John Young Esq. of Etton, Northamptonshire.


18 August 1815 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Death
Friday last, at Etton, near Market Deeping, aged 31, Mr. John Young, farmer.


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D569063

(his Will above)


County Northamptonshire
Place Helpston
Church St Botolph
RegisterNumber 19
MarriageDate 16 Mar 1812
GroomForename John
GroomSurname YOUNG
GroomParish Etton
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname CLARKE
BrideParish Of This Parish
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname KEETON
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname WINSLOW
Notes By Licence Both signed, J Serocold vicar

(possible)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

(also below Marriage)

24 June 1848 - Cambridge Chronicle and Journal - Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

Marriage
On Wednesday last the 21 inst., at All Saints church, Leicester, Mr. G. Hollingworth, chemist, late of Birmingham, to Melicent, widow of Mr. Wm. Grounds, late of Wisbech.

Gritty... certainly possible.. birth year is very close...

Just putting up as a possible:

First name(s) ROGER
Last name CRISPIN
Gender Male
Age 47
Birth year 1833
Death year 1880
Vessel CHRISTINA
Year range 1880
Page 30
Record source GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902)
Record set British nationals died overseas 1818-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Thanks for all the info and help..

looks good Gritty :-)

1861: Image states CRISP

Roger Criss
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Milicent Criss
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Martin
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2362
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6

Name Age
Roger Criss 28 Agricultural Merchant
Milicent Criss 36

Address: 255 1/2 High Street.

just got daughter Mary Buckle with her
1861 England Census about Catherine Crisp
Name: Catherine Crisp
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kildare, Ireland
Civil Parish: Peterborough St John the Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:annuitant

Condition as to marriage:widow

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 966
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Crisp 60
Mary B Crisp 25

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 966; Folio: 6; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542729.


So Roger seems to evade all census after 1841

as he joined the Merchant Navy most likely at sea


Maybe he died at sea???

so he was probaly at sea in 1851

1851 England Census about Cath?? Crisp
Name: Cath?? Crisp
[Catherine Crisp]
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Peterborough St John the Baptist
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:2 Neville Place

Occupation:annuitant

Condition as to marriage:widow

Disability:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Stilton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 1747
Folio: 444
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Cath?? Crisp 52
Mary Crisp 20
Fanny Crisp 14
Thos Seed 29

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1747; Folio: 444; Page: 39; GSU roll: 87702-87703.

doesnt help find his death but as it came up

His unmarried sister Mary

1891 England Census about Mary Brickle Crisp
Name: Mary Brickle Crisp
[Mary Buckle Crisp]
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:living on own means

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1230
Folio: 109
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Brickle Crisp 58

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1230; Folio: 109; Page: 4; GSU Roll: 6096340.

looks like he had a brother called Buckle
1841 England Census about Royer Crisp
Name: Royer Crisp
[Roger Crisp]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: St John The Baptist
Hundred: Nassaburgh
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 817
Book: 1
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Crisp 40 occ merchant
Catherine Crisp 40
Elizabeth Crisp 15
Buckle Crisp 13
Katherine Crisp 12
Mary Crisp 10
Monica Crisp 8
Royer Crisp 6
Fanny Crisp 4
Sarah Spriggs 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 817; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St John The Baptist; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 8; Page: 10; Line: 22; GSU roll: 438883.

Merchant Seamen Transcription


First name(s) ROGER
Last name Crisp
Age -
Birth year 1834
Birth day 15
Birth month 09
Birth place PETERBOROUGH
Birth county NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
Place PETERBOROUGH
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number -374 676
Card type -

type Boy served in Royal Navy for two months

ticket issued 2 April 1850

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription

First name(s) Roger
Last name Crisp
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 15 Oct 1834
Place Peterborough
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Crisp
Mother's first name(s) Catharine
Mother's last name -
Batch number I00729-7

County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 522
MarriageDate 01 Jul 1834
GroomForename William
GroomSurname GROUNDS
GroomCondition Bachelor
BrideForename Milicent
BrideSurname YOUNG
BrideCondition Spinster
WitnessOneForename Vincent
WitnessOneSurname BELLAIRS
WitnessTwoForename Mary Bibbons
WitnessTwoSurname GROUNDS
Notes By licence. Witness 3: William STEVENS.

Chris :)

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Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 78
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jun 1835
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Lynn Road
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 79
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jun 1835
Forename Edward
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Lynn Road
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 457
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 May 1837
Forename John Young
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Market Place
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 642
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 Jun 1838
Forename David
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Market Place
FatherOccupation Druggist

If Roger is the son of William Crisp and Katherine/Catherine Buckle, the only census I can spot him in so far is the 1841. :-(

will make note of that... Thx Kucinta...