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Hello everyone

I was wondering if anybody could help me as I'm confused (it don't take much).

I have a Walter g Viall b 1880 boreham Essex married to Margaret Melvin in 1902 and children
Marjorie Hilda b 1904
Walter james b 1905
Leslie John b 1907
Winifred elizabeth b 1907 all in dartford area

But I have been contacted by a man called Phillip Viall saying that my Walter g Viall married an Emily grace Williamson?? And had a son called Terence in 1934..

Am I being stupid because to me the dates don't seem right for a start, he has Walters parents right tho so am a bit confused and would really like another pair of eyes to have a look for me .

Thank you in advance

Trudy :-)

His army records:

First name(s) Walter George
Last name Viall
Service number 179750
Regiment Royal Field Artillery
Unit / Battalion 6th Casualty Clearing
Event year 1916
Age 35
Birth year 1880
Birth town Boreham
Birth county Essex
Birth country England
Residence town Woolwich
Residence county -
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Great Britain

States married Married Margaret Melvin 1903 and has the children you have listed

I'm not seeing a marriage for a Walter G Viall to an Emily Grace Williamson.

When was the marriage supposed to have taken place?

just for reference
Viall
Name: Walter George Viall
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Woolwich
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 2306
Records on Page:
Name
Margaret Jane Melvin
Hannah Cutler
Annie Lilian Dudding
Walter George Viall
Frederick George Worlidge

there is a tree on ancestry with his spouse as Williamson but no supporting marriage record.

looks like Margaret
so unlikely he remarried


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Margaret Jane Viall
Name: Margaret Jane Viall
Birth Date: 31 May 1885
Date of Registration: Sep 1975
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2212

Walter

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Walter G Viall
Name: Walter G Viall
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Mar 1957
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 562

Married Margaret Melvin in 1903 not 1902:

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MELVIN Margaret Jane Woolwich 1d 2306
VIALL Walter George Woolwich 1d 2306

I don't see a marriage of Walter Viall to Emily Williamson.

Their is a Terence b1934 with mm Williamson- possible that Walter could have been the father, but not seeing a marriage.

If there was a marriage, Emily could have been a widow so would not have married as Williamson.

Walter's death?

Name: Walter G Viall
Birth: abt 1880
Death: Mar 1957 - Greenwich, Greater London, England

Terence's birth was registered in Greenwich.

Thank you so much guys I really am grateful

I just couldn't work it out he says that Terence was born in Maidstone in 1934,, Walter would of been about 54 then so I spose it's possible.


Trudy
:-)

According to a few trees on Ancestry........


Emily Grace WILLIAMSON
Birth 13 Oct 1892 in Silvertown, Newnham, Essex, England



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Emily Grace Williamson Name:Emily Grace Williamson
Registration Year:1892
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:West Ham
Inferred County:Essex
Volume:4a
Page:212




England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Emily Grace Viall Name:Emily Grace Viall
Birth Date:13 Oct 1892
Date of Registration:Jun 1979
Age at Death:86
Registration district:Greenwich
Inferred County:
Greater London
Volume:12
Page:1017

So perhaps Walter and Margaret separated and he lived with Emily Grace Williamson?

There is an Emily G Viall living at the same address as this man:


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Walter G Viall

Year:1955

Couny or Borough:Greenwich
Ward or Division/Constituency:Greenwich
Street address:88 Kuval Roee - Maryon Road on image

Hmmmmm
living with Emily Grace Viall


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Walter G Viall
Name: Walter G Viall
Year: 1952
County or Borough: Greenwich
Ward or Division/Constituency: Greenwich
Street address: 88 I Dorothy Sarah

Sorted!

:-D

This man is really confusing me I've just looked on his tree and he has other children for Walter g vial and Emily Williamson now,, they are
Emily 1914-1980
Frank 1916-1975
Mary 1918-1999

It doesn't make sense and he takes ages to reply to messages

Trudy :-)

In 1945 she is shown as Emily S; living with Walter at 88 Maryon Road:


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Walter G Viall

Year:1945

County or Borough:Greenwich

Ward or Division/Constituency:Greenwich
Street address:88 Park Drive

There are a lot of trees on Ancestry with him married to Emily Grace Williamson, all evidently copied from each other. Some have him born Essex, England but died Essex, Massachusetts, USA.

Wow thank you pricklyholly your a star

Trudy??

Walter & Emily together in 1934:


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Walter George Viall

Year:1934
County or Borough:Greenwich
Ward or Division/Constituency:Greenwich
Street address:435 WOOiAVlCIl ROAD- Woolwich Road

Thank you guys for helping me with this

Trudy :-)

Some of those Ancestry trees are shocking! I'd ask Phillip Viall if he could send you a copy of Terence's birht, and if it were my family I'd get Walter's death cert and see who registered it:

First name(s) WALTER G
Last name VIALL
Gender Male
Birth year 1880
Age 77
Death quarter 1
Death year 1957
District GREENWICH
County London
Volume 5C
Page 562