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malyon

malyon Report 5 Jan 2015 19:29

hi
couuld you help i am trying to find out the names of john malyon's parents he was born about 1801 going by the census 1841 in southwark surrey his wife is mary also would like to find out when they married and mary's maiden name and how mary children they had john was my gt.gt.gt grandad thank you

Gee

Gee Report 5 Jan 2015 19:58

Hi Yvonne

Is this the census? He's not born in the county and what appears to be his wife is Jane?



1841 England Census

Name:John Malyon

Age:40

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1801

Gender:Male

Civil Parish:St Olave

Hundred:Southwark

County/Island:Surrey

Registration district:St Olaves

Sub-registration district:St Olave and St Thomas

Piece:1088

Book:12

Folio:32

Page Number:3

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:08

This is the address in 1841.

Guys Hospital Street Olave, St Olave, St Thomas & St Saviour, St Olave Southwark, Surrey, England

He is an Ap? Porter, with Jane 35, Fanny 5 and Elizabeth 2. The children are born in county.

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:09


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) John
Last name Malyon
Relationship Porter
Marital status Married
Gender Male
Age 53
Birth year 1798
Occupation Porter Guys Hospital
Birth place England
Birth town -
Birth town as transcribed Great Seaford
Birth county Essex
Birth county as transcribed Essex
Street -
Town -
Parish Saint Thomas
City Southwark
County Surrey
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough Southwark
Municipal ward -
Registration district Saint Olave Southwark
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1559

with wife Jane, March Wood, Hants and 12 year old Elizabeth, born Guys.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2015 20:11

This looks like him in the 1851 census - Again his wife is Jane. He is born Great Seaford, Essex.

First name(s) John
Last name Malyon
Relationship Porter
Marital status Married
Gender Male
Age 53
Birth year 1798
Occupation Porter Guys Hospital
Birth place England
Birth town -
Birth town as transcribed Great Seaford
Birth county Essex
Birth county as transcribed Essex
Street -
Town -
Parish Saint Thomas
City Southwark
County Surrey

Kath. x

jansmith

jansmith Report 5 Jan 2015 20:13

?1851 the above John as a porter at Guys Hospital

Name:
John Malyon
Age:53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Parter (porter)
Gender Male
Where born: St Seaford, Essex, England
Civil Parish:Southwark St Olave, St Saviour, and St Thomas
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
Southwark

Name:Jane Malyon
Age:50
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1801
Relation:
Wife
Gender:
Female
Where born:
March Wood, Hampshire, England

Name:
Elizabeth Malyon
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1839
Relation:Daughter
Mother's name :Penslope Adams (this is a wrong transcription)
Gender: Female
Where born: Guys, Surrey, England
Civil Parish:
Southwark St Olave, St Saviour, and St Thomas

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:14

??

Name: John Malyon
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1799
Baptism Place: Great Sampford, Essex, England
Father: John
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1472680

His Marriage?

Name: John Malyon
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 29 May 1826
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Spouse: Jane Scorey
FHL Film Number: 1041642
Reference ID: item 3 p 78

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2015 20:14

In the 1841 census I think his occupation reads Assistant Porter.

Kath. x

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:14

Name: Fanny Malyon
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 Sep 1836
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Southwark,London,England
Father: John Malyon
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 0254566, 0254567


Name: Elizabeth Malyon
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1838
Baptism Place: Southwark, Surrey, England
Father: John Malyon
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 254566

??

Name: Elizabeth Malyon
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 24 Aug 1845
Baptism Place: Newenden, Kent, England
Father: John Malyon
Mother: Jane Malyon
FHL Film Number: 1835506

EDIT This must be a different family.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2015 20:16

Possible for his birth from the IGI :-

John Mallyon
International Genealogical Index (IGI)

christening: 8 November 1797 Saffron Walden,Essex,Eng
father: John Mallyon
mother: Hannah Orgar Or Auger

Kath. x

jansmith

jansmith Report 5 Jan 2015 20:19


Name: Elizabeth Malyon
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Aug 1838
Father's Name:
John Malyon
Mother's name:
Jane Malyon
Parish or Poor Law Union:
Southwark St Thomas
Borough:
Southwark
Register Type:
Parish Registers

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:27

?? Abode was Maze Pond, Southwark.


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Fanny Malyon
Name: Fanny Malyon
Record Type: Burial
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Death Date: abt 1846
Burial Date: 15 Aug 1846
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:38


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Avenue Terrace, Camberwell, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Malyan Head Widow Female 60 1801 - Marchwood, Hampshire, England
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Elizabeth Malyan Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1839 Milliner Southwark, Surrey, England




1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Puliors Road, Lambeth, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Rendell Head - Male 34 1837 Southwark, Surrey, England Hatter
Elizabeth Rendell Wife - Female 32 1839 Southwark, Surrey, England
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George J Rendell Son - Male 8 1863 Lambeth, Surrey, England
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Lizzie F Rendell Daughter - Female 4 1867 Lambeth Surrey, England
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Jane Malyn Mother - Female 70 1801 - Hampshire, England



London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Jane Malyon
Name: Jane Malyon
Record Type: Burial
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Death Date: abt 1875
Burial Date: 18 Mar 1875
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

Abode was 37 Pulros Rd, Stockwell.

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jan 2015 20:50

hi
thank you for your help but thats not my john malyon on 1841 census he is with mary
he had a son john born about 1827 and i think 2 daughters ann and elizabeth born in bristol he worked in the leather trade

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 20:53

John's burial. Abode Guy's Hospital.


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about John Malyon
Name: John Malyon
Record Type: Burial
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Death Date: abt 1854
Burial Date: 24 Aug 1854
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

Gee

Gee Report 5 Jan 2015 20:54

Hi

Can you post the census that you make mention to please

malyon

malyon Report 5 Jan 2015 21:25

sorry i have not paid to get census i found it a few years ago this is john malyon the son Name: John Malyon
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Aug 1826
Christening Place: SAINT SAVIOUR,SOUTHWARK,SURREY,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Malyon
Mother's Name: Mary

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 21:29

Name: John Malyon
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1826
Father's Name: John Malyon, baker of King Street
Mother's name: Mary Malyon
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark St Saviour
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers
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alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 21:34

A tree has this for his parents.


John Malyon
1790 – 1871

Mary Hunt
1792 – 1860

Parents


Thomas ? Malyon
1770 –

Susannah ?
1770 –

John Malyon
Birth 1790 in Peckham Surrey England
Death 08 May 1871 in Camberwell Workhouse Camberwell Surrey England


Death
1871 8 May Age: 81
Camberwell Workhouse Camberwell Surrey England
Cause of Death: Bronchitis and Softening of Brain V:1d P: 451




Mary Hunt
Birth 1792 in Bermondsey Surrey England
Death Oct 1860 in London, United Kingdom

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 Jan 2015 21:36


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Minto Street, Bermondsey, St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Sub-registration district: Leather Market (this bit is from ancestry)

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Malyon Male 50 1791 Surrey, England
baker
Mary Malyon Female 50 1791 Surrey, England
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Elizabeth Malyon Female 19 1822 Surrey, England
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Thomas Harris Male 20 1821 Surrey, England
Sailor or tailor
Ann Harris Female 20 1821 Surrey, England


These next two do not appear to be him and Mary as places of birth are different.
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Magdalen Circus, Magdalen Street, Saint John, Saint Olave Southwark, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Malyon Head Married Male 59 1792 Journeyman Baker Sandford, Essex, England
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Mary Malyon Wife Married Female 63 1788 - St Stephens, Somerset, England (should read Bristol not Somerset)



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Homerton Grove, Hackney, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Burk Head Married Male 50 1811 Baker Norfolk, England
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Mary Burk Wife Married Female 47 1814 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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John Malyon Servant Widower Male 69 1792 Journeyman Baker Sandford, Essex, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) John
Last name Malyon
Relationship Inmate
Marital status -
Gender Male
Age 80
Birth year 1791
Occupation -baker
Birth town -Peckham
Birth county Surrey
Birth county as transcribed SURREY
Birth place England
House name -
Street Camberwell Workhouse, Havil Street, Camberwell
Parish Camberwell
Town -
City -
County London, Surrey
Country England
Registration district Camberwell