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Hi team, trying to find out more about Edward born in Hull, Yorkshire

Possible his father was Ellis Meyer a teacher who emigrated to Port Adelaide, Australia on the Navarino in 1837

What do you already know or what are you wanting to find out

How have you arrived at his name

Might have to be careful with this one, there is a tree on Ancestry that has the following

Edward Ellis/Ellis Edward Meyer
Birth 9/3/1822 in 1652400, Yorkshire, England
Death 15/7/1918 in Mt Gambier, South Australia

with parents
Solomon Meyer
1766 – 1863
Sarah Elizabeth Samuel
1787 – 1828

( I say 'careful' because there is someone of the same name born around the same time marrying in London...with different parents though)

There is a lot of info on the tree on Ancestry incl photos.

If this is his death in SA, his father is shown as 'Meyer Meyer' of Hull, Yorks.

The Advertiser, Thursday 17 November 1904
DEATHS.
MEYER,-On the 1st November, at Adelaide Hospital, Ellis Meyer, beloved husband of Elizabeth Meyer, youngest son by first wife of Meyer Meyer, Esq., silk, ivory, and fur merchant, of Hull, Yorkshire, newsvendor, stand Hooper's Corner, in his 83rd year, resident Tam O'Shanter-place. At rest.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5030627

His obit:
Mr. Ellis Meyer, who died at the age of 83 years last week, arrived in Adelaide on December 6, 1837, by the ship Navarino, commanded by Captain Morgan. He resided at Mount Gambier for many years, but for the last quarter of a century he had lived in Adelaide. He left a widow.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88376887

So it seems that arrival is him, not his father, and he was about 15 at the time. Is it possible that 1827 was his baptism/christening and that he was born c1822? Not sure where the Ancestry tree has its info from but I can't see a 1918 death that matches.

Border Watch, Saturday 1 September 1945
MEYER, John Harrison.--On the 21st August, at Kaniva District Hospital, son of the late Edward Ellis and Eliza Meyer, of Mount Gambier, and the beloved husband of (nee Clara Feder) and father of Fred, Lena, Victor, George, Claris (Mrs. L. A. Maddern), Leonard, Reginald.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78095535

Border Watch, Wednesday 2 June 1886
MARRIAGE.
TILLEY - MEYER.-On May 31, at the residence of the bride's mother, by the Rev. R. A. Caldwell, George Henry, second son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tilley, Uley, Gloucestershire, England, to Miriam, fourth daughter of Ellis and Eliza Meyer, Torrensdale, Mount Gambier, S.A.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77546677

Border Watch, Tuesday 27 June 1944
DEATHS
TILLEY (nee Meyer). —On the 19th June, at her residence, 44 Warburton Road, Canterbury, Victoria, Eliza Jane, the daughter of the late Edward Ellis and Eliza Meyer, of Mount Gambier, and the beloved wife of late Joseph Thomas Tilley (England), loved mother of Minnie, Jack, Myrtle.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78164439

This article states that Ellis Meyer was a schoolmaster at Torrensdale. Eldest daughter Fanny. Lots on Trove about Edward Meyer's school at Torrensdale around the 1860s. I suspect he preferred to be known by middle name Ellis.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77952175

Children by first marriage:
1852 MEYER Fanny / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Adelaide / 4/52
1854 MEYER Edward Thomas / Edward MEYER / Elizabeth MEYER / Adelaide / 4/291
1858 MEYER Eliza Jane / Edward Ellis MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Robe / 14/334
1861 MEYER George Frederick / Edward Ellis MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 22/498
1863 MEYER Marian / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 28/248
1865 MEYER Philip Henry / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 35/109
1867 MEYER John Harrison / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 51/392
1869 MEYER Frederick Ellis / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 72/20
1871 MEYER Rose Latimer / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 93/348
1873 MEYER Mary Edith / Edward Ellis MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 122/39
1875 MEYER Thomas Alfred / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 160/76
1879 MEYER Richard Herbert / Edward Ellis MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 227/498

His 2nd marriage?:
1880 123/1059 / MEYER Ellis / CHARTERS Elizabeth / Adelaide

A Meyer Meyer, merchant, of Hull is mentioned here, indicating they were Jewish:
http://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=show.tcl&dsqSearch=(RefNo=='C%20DJC%2F2%2F1%2F10%2F1%2F40')

Cherilyn, awesome stuff. My g grandfather was 1865 MEYER Philip Henry / Edward MEYER / Eliza GREEN / Grey / 35/109

He moved to Grong Grong NSW a farm called Wilga Park.. The family history book said that Edward Ellis Meyer came out on the Navarino in 1837 and was born in 1827 but the passenger list says Ellis Meyer was a teacher I thought they were two separate people but as you point out in the obit he was 83 years that would have made him born in 1821 and 16 or 17 when he emigrated young for a teacher now but in those days.... this is great thanks heaps. The history has Eliza passing on 14 Feb 1920 so not sure about the 1880 marriage? And the history doesnt have Richard Herbert in 1879 ... awesome :-)

My pleasure :)

You have no doubt found this marriage but thought I'd post anyway
1907 / 231/1371
MEYER Richard Herbert
SWEET Phoebe Ellen Jane
Port Adelaide

Richard died in Victoria as did several of the others. Richard's wife Phoebe died in Kaniva in 1980 aged 98! (reg 19956), dau of Robert & Jane Ellen.

Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985

Surname: MEYER
Given Names: Richd Herbt
Father: Meyer Ellis
Mother: Eliza GREEN
Death Place: KANIVA
Age: 61
Year: 1940
Reg Number: 21684
Event: D

Surname: TILLEY
Given Names: Eliza Jane
Father: Meyer Edw Ellis
Mother: Eliza GREEN
Death Place: CANTBY
Age: 84
Year: 1944
Reg Number: 5684
Event: D

Surname: MEYER
Given Names: Jno Harrison
Father: Meyer Edw
Mother: Green ELIZA
Death Place: KANIVA
Age: 78
Year: 1945
Reg Number: 20769
Event: D

Surname: MEYER
Given Names: Thos Alfred
Father: Ellis
Mother: Eliza GREEN
Death Place: NHILL
Age: 68
Year: 1945
Reg Number: 17182
Event: D

Surname: MEYER
Given Names: Fredk Ellis
Father: Edw
Mother: Eliza GREEN
Death Place: CBURY
Age: 83
Year: 1951
Reg Number: 13772
Event: D

So Meyer Meyer a merchant of Hull perhaps late of london need to find more about him and his wives

Are you sure Edward Ellis was born in Yorkshire?

I am wondering if he was born in Germany, Denmark or Prussia or maybe even the Netherlands? And then the family moved to England and lived in London/Yorkshire?

This page mentions a Meyer Meyer of London, who is a a Fur Manufacturing Merchant, b. c1815. Possibly an older brother to Edward Ellis?

http://www.tonyseymour.com/people/isaac-marsden

Just a thought - maybe the 1827 for Edward Ellis' birth has come from someone mistranscribing an old-fashioned 1 as a 7! :D

Omg you are awesome. No not certain born in England. Transcription error very possible. I need to get the Meyer history book from my mother, she just passed on 29 Dec 2014.

Omg you are awesome. No not certain born in England. Transcription error very possible. I need to get the Meyer history book from my mother, she just passed on 29 Dec 2014.

Just posting the ref for his death certificate should you want it



Name:Ellis Myer

Death Date:1 Nov 1904

Death Place:Adelaide

Age:82

Residence Place:Adelaide

Registration Place:Adelaide, South Australia

Page Number:17

Volume Number:306

Estimated birth year:abt 1822

Great thanks I will get it

The tree on ancestry has this clipping of Meyer Meyer 1815, brother of Edward Ellis.

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/9325001/person/-607924908/media/2?pgnum=1&pg=0&pgpl=pid|pgNum


and this is him.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
21, Artillery Place, Saint Luke Middlesex, Saint Luke, Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meyer Meyer Head Married Male 36 1815 Fur Merchant London, Middlesex, England
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Sarah Meyer Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Barrington Meyer Son - Male 4 1847 - London, Middlesex, England
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Montague Meyer Son - Male 3 1848 - London, Middlesex, England
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Emily Meyer Daughter - Female 1 1850 - London, Middlesex, England
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Charlotte Howell Servant Unmarried Female 25 1826 Cook Snape, Suffolk, England
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Sophia Ledger Servant Unmarried Female 25 1826 Housemaid South Elmsall, Yorkshire, England
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Susan Briant Servant Unmarried Female 24 1827 Nurse London, Middlesex, England
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Emma Shaw Servant Unmarried Female 15 1836 Under Nurse London, Middlesex, England




1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Gordon Square, St Pancras, Pancras, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meyre Meyre Head Married Male 47 1814 Skin Merchant London, Middlesex, England
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Sarah Meyre Wife Married Female 39 1822 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Julius Meyre Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 - London, Middlesex, England
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Alfred Meyre Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 - London, Middlesex, England
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Montague Meyre Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 - London, Middlesex, England
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Emily Meyre Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1850 - London, Middlesex, England
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Walter Meyre Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 - London, Middlesex, England
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Ernest Meyre Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 - London, Middlesex, England
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Arthur Meyre Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 - London, Middlesex, England
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Leopold Meyre Son Unmarried Male 5 1856 - London, Middlesex, England
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Annie Meyre Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1858 - London, Middlesex, England
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Theodore Meyre Son - Male 0 1861 - London, Middlesex, England
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Lonsca Hart Governess Unmarried Female 21 1840 - London, Middlesex, England
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Mary Lawless Servant Unmarried Female 31 1830 General Servant Somerset, England
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Grace Jackson Servant Unmarried Female 23 1838 General Servant -
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Mary Way Servant Unmarried Female 27 1834 General Servant Taunton, Somerset, England
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Charlotte Wood Servant Unmarried Female 21 1840 General Servant Taunton, Somerset, England
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Caroline Snook Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 General Servant Creech St Michael, Somerset, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gordon Square, St Pancras, Pancras, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Meyer Meyer Head - Male 56 1815 - London, Middlesex, England
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Sarah Meyer Wife - Female 49 1822 - Gloucestershire, England
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Julius Meyer Son - Male 27 1844 - Middlesex, England
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Montague Meyer Son - Male 23 1848 - London, Middlesex, England
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Walker Meyer Son - Male 19 1852 - London, Middlesex, England
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Ernest Meyer Son - Male 18 1853 - Middlesex, England
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Leopold Meyer Son - Male 15 1856 - Middlesex, England
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Annie Meyer Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
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Isabel Meyer Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
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Sarah Vos Governess - Female 24 1847 - Holland (Netherlands)
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Alice Dennis Servant - Female 23 1848 - Sussex, England
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Emily Guy Servant - Female 21 1850 - Sussex, England
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Emily Burton Servant - Female 19 1852 - Sussex, England
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Sarah Hawkins Servant - Female 18 1853 - Herefordshire, England

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Death of Edward Ellis Meyer -
GNicholson22 added this on 3 Feb 2014
I am also researching the Meyers family from Mount Gambier. I have a copy of the death certificate of Edward Meyer who died at Mount Gambier on 14th July 1918. He was 83 years old (born 1835) and came from Hanover via Hamburg, Germany in about 1856. I don't believe he is related to your Edward Ellis Meyer who obviously came from Yorkshire. Gerry Nicholson previously of Mount Gambier, South Australia.