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Marilyn
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13 Jan 2015 08:05 |
Jane arrived in South Aust in 1848 with her 4 children, how can I find out the Names of her children ? Details Jane Prideaux (W) 4 children and where she lived after arrival. Ship: Santipore 15/10/1848
Regards, Marilyn Melb Vic
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Dea
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13 Jan 2015 08:46 |
As the passenger list and the arrivals announcement in the newspaper just record them as 'Prideaux, Jane and four children' it is going to be extremely difficult to find their names.
Do you know anything else about her which might help - her age, where she was born or lived, who she married?
How does she connect to your family please?
I have to say, it must have been a dreadful experience - people don't appear to have had cabins and several infants died during the 4 month long journey.
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13 Jan 2015 09:10 |
Aha !
I had presumed that she was travelling out there to join her husband but it appears that she was a widow ???
Did her husband die over here or had he travelled first and died in Australia?
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13 Jan 2015 09:26 |
Did she remarry to Mr. Watts in 1851?
WATTS George, Jane PRIDEAUX married 1851-08-19 at Res of Mr John, Kooringa, aged 45 (w), 40 (w)
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KathleenBell
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13 Jan 2015 09:57 |
There are 28 women on the English 1841 census with the name Jane Prideaux.
This one has four children and her husband is called Richard. There is a death in late 1841 which could be him. Perhaps this is one to consider:-
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Richd Prideaux Male 35 1806 Cornwall, England Jane Prideaux Female 35 1806 Cornwall, England Elizeabth Prideaux Female 14 1827 Cornwall, Engl Richd Prideaux Male 10 1831 Cornwall, England Wm Prideaux Male 7 1834 Cornwall, England Henry Prideaux Male 5 1836 Cornwall, England
Address: Ramsgate, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall.
This is the death:-
First name(s) RICHARD Last name PRIDEAUX Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1841 District REDRUTH County Cornwall Volume 9 Page 144 Country England
The only thing against this being the family is that I don't think the two eldest children would still be classed as children by 1848.
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Dea
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13 Jan 2015 10:51 |
I thought that too about the ages Kath !
I think these are connected:
Number of results to show: Preview Name Events Relationships Details Image Charles Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 5 November 1836 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane Jane Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 16 June 1827 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane John Harry Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 31 January 1829 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane Richard Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 5 April 1834 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane William Warren Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 29 August 1835 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane Susanna Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 14 October 1826 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane James Prideaux
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 June 1831 CAMBORNE,CORNWALL,ENGLAND father: James Prideaux mother: Jane John Kary Prideaux
Australia, Marriages, 1810-1980 birth: 1830 Camborne, Cornwall, England marriage: 2 January 1855 St. James, West Melbourne, Victoria, Australia father: James Prideaux mother: Jane Stoneman Prideaux spouse: Jane Mcintyre other: Gilbert Mcintyre, Christina Cameron Mcintyre
and that this is the family in 1841:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bolennowe, Camborne, Redruth, Cornwall, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Jane Prideaux Female 30 1811 Cornwall, England Transcription Susan Prideaux Female 14 1827 Cornwall, England Transcription John Prideaux Male 12 1829 Cornwall, England Transcription James Prideaux Male 10 1831 Cornwall, England Transcription Richard Prideaux Male 7 1834 Cornwall, England Transcription Charles Prideaux Male 5 1836 Cornwall, England Transcription Susanna Stoneman Female 60 1781 Cornwall, England
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AnnCardiff
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13 Jan 2015 10:53 |
the majority of Prideaux are in Melbourne
????????? Name: Jane P Prideaux Occupation: Widow Death Date: 22 Mar 1896 Event Place: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Residence City: Eaglehawk Event Date: 10 Jun 1896 Series Number: 61 Record Number: 249
Digital Folder Number: 004104563 , Image Number: 00139
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AnnCardiff
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13 Jan 2015 10:54 |
Name: John Kary Prideaux Birth Date: 1830 Birthplace: Camborne, Cornwall, England Age: 25 Spouse's Name: Jane Mcintyre Spouse's Birth Date: 1834 Spouse's Birthplace: Appen, Scotland Spouse's Age: 21 Event Date: 02 Jan 1855 Event Place: St. James, West Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Father's Name: James Prideaux Mother's Name: Jane Stoneman Prideaux Spouse's Father's Name: Gilbert Mcintyre Spouse's Mother's Name: Christina Cameron Mcintyre Marital Status: Single Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00378-7 , System Origin: Australia , GS Film number: 993777 , Reference ID: b4 rn22
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AnnCardiff
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13 Jan 2015 11:07 |
not this one then?
Name: Jane Prideaux Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 50 Relationship to Head of Household: Sister Birthplace: Camborne, Cornwall Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Redruth Sub-District: Camborne Parish: Camborne County: Cornwall
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace James Prideaux Self M 60 Camborne, Cornwall Edw Prideaux Brother M 59 Camborne, Cornwall Ann Prideaux Sister F 51 Camborne, Cornwall Jane Prideaux Sister F 50 Camborne, Cornwall
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Dea
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13 Jan 2015 11:17 |
A tree on Ancestry confirms the marriage I found to George Watts is correct and shows fruther marriages with proof from Cornwall Family History Soc. that she was in fact Jane Stoneman. (once entered as Stoeman and once as Stone - father Richard.
Marriage to George Watts 1851 Age: 45 Kooringa, South Australia, Australia
Photos (1)
Marriage to Tobias Hampton 1864 Age: 58 Kooringa, South Australia, Australia
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Marriage to Andrew Riggs 1868 8 Dec Age: 62 Mallala, South Australia, Australia
Photos (1)
Death 1884 13 Oct Age: 78 Gawler Hills, South Australia, Australia
Burial Willaston, South Australia, Australia Willaston Cemetery
Photos (2)
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AnnCardiff
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13 Jan 2015 11:47 |
hmm - I went through all the Soneman's but failed to find her
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Marilyn
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13 Jan 2015 11:52 |
Wow :-D
I am working backwards on this one:
My grt grt grt grandfather was Charles Prideaux, he married Eliza Mary Mutton In Kooringa SA abt 1864, their children John Mutton, 1864Eliza or Jane 1866, & Charles Prideaux.
I could be wrong on this Jane Prideaux with 4 children being my ancestor, but it Seems to fit.
I am descended from John a Mutton Prideaux m Sarah Ann Penhall - they moved To Western Aust early 1900's. My grandmother Eliza born abt 1897 Wallaroo Mines.
Many Thanks, Marilyn :-D ;-)
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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13 Jan 2015 12:00 |
James Prideaux
England Marriages, 1538–1973 marriage: 28 July 1825 Camborne,Cornwall,England spouse: Jane Stone?????????
Perhaps they did'nt hear the last bit of her name, man?
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Jan 2015 12:10 |
County Cornwall Place Camborne Church St. Martin and St. Meriadoc RegisterNumber MarriageDate 28 Jul 1825 GroomForename James GroomSurname PRIDEAUX GroomOccupation Miner BrideForename Jane BrideSurname STONE WitnessOneForename William WitnessOneSurname STONEMAN WitnessTwoForename Richard WitnessTwoSurname PRIDEAUX
Chris :)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
(from above link, also worth a look round on below link)
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
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Dea
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13 Jan 2015 13:31 |
Well, Susan wasn't one of the children who travelled with Jane as she married in Cornwall and followed on a few weeks later:
More information about record 1045279 in the Marriages database Day Month 06-Jul Year 1844 Parish Or Reg District Camborne Groom Fn William Groom Sn BENNETS Groom Age full age Groom Residence Bolennow Groom Condition bachelor Groom Rank Profession Miner Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M Groom Father Name James(deceased) Groom Father Rank Profession Miner Bride Fn Susan Bride Sn PRIDEAUX Bride Age minor Bride Residence Bolennow Bride Condition spinster Bride Rank Profession Miner Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M Bride Father Name James(deceased) Bride Father Rank Profession Miner Banns / Licence (B/L) B Witness Fn1 John Witness Sn1 Duckham Witness Fn2 James Witness Sn2 Bennetts Other Information Transcriber Notes Transcriber Sally Cann
BENNETTS William, Susan PRIDEAUX, James arrived 1848-11-13 on Poictiers from London via Plymouth
BENNETTS William, Susan PRIDEAUX, parents of child born 1850-01-22 named William at Glen Osmond
BENNETTS William, Susan PRIDEAUX, parents of child born 1851-04-08 named William at (TMu)
BENNETTS William, Susan PRIDEAUX, parents of child born 1852-08-11 named John at Adelaide
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Marilyn
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13 Jan 2015 23:16 |
Thankyou soooo much :-D :-D :-D :-D
So, is it reasonable now to confirm, that Jane Prideaux travelling with 4 children Is my grt grt grt grandmother. That, her husband died in Cornwall, and she decided to make a new life in Australia.
Her, daughter and husband, and her son came after.
I could never find a Charles Prideaux coming to Australia, so this seems to be The answer.
There may have been relatives that had come before.
Is it possible to get any Living contacts ?
I have a well preserved photo of my grt grt grandfather Charles Prideaux that I would be happy to share.
So much appreciated all your help, Marilyn.
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KathleenBell
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13 Jan 2015 23:57 |
Have you used the "search" facility (top right of screen). Click on that and then on "search all member trees". If you put in Charles Prideaux's name there are a couple of people who have him in their trees. You can contact them directly.
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Marilyn
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14 Jan 2015 00:41 |
Thanks Kath.
I have another difficult one.
My Grace Williams b abt 1835 Kenwyn Corn m Nicholas Penhall babt 1822. Married in Tavistock abt 1856 ? Immigrated to South Aust 1857
With a common name of Williams how can I find her family ?
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Jan 2015 05:11 |
Nicholas and Grace married in the June quarter 1856 (ie April, May June)
from freebmd
Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
PENHALE Nicholas Tavistock 5b 629 PENHALL Nicholas Tavistock 5b 629 WILLIAMS Grace Tavistock 5b 629
If you buy this marriage certificate, it will tell you how old they are, where they lived, their occupations, and the names of their fathers ..........................
when you get the name of Grace's father, then you have a better chance of tracing her family
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14 Jan 2015 05:26 |
Nicholas and Grace married in the June quarter 1856 (ie April, May June)
from freebmd
Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
PENHALE Nicholas Tavistock 5b 629 PENHALL Nicholas Tavistock 5b 629 WILLIAMS Grace Tavistock 5b 629
If you buy this marriage certificate, it will tell you how old they are, where they lived, their occupations, and the names of their fathers ..........................
when you get the name of Grace's father, then you have a better chance of tracing her family
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