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Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 21:49

Elizabeth HOCKING was born about 1821 or 1823 in East Lynn, Cornwall. On 4 Oct 1848 she married John Rutherford in the Parish of St Mary, Dover, Kent. I have quite a lot of info on John's family but I have very little on Elizabeth' s background. Elizabeth died in 1876 in Camberwell, London.

I think her dad was John HOCKING born about 1791 but I don't know where. And her mum was Lucy ?? born about 1791.

In the 1851 census for Dover, Kent for Elizabeth and John RUTHERFORD it says there is present one William PRICE aged 10 years old, mason, born Dover as being a step son. John hadn't been married before and Elizabeth seems to have gone from HOCKING to RUTHERFORD, no other marriage known.

Is anyone able to give me more info on Elizabeth's birth date, details of her parents and some ideas as to how they have a stepson with a different surname when neither has been married before??

As always, any help is gratefully accepted.

Sue from NZ

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Feb 2015 21:58

1851 original actually says Son-in-Law ( though it probably means step son )

Choccy

Choccy Report 24 Feb 2015 22:06

Father of Elizabeth on marriage certificate was John Hocking, a Cow Keeper.

Address of bride and groom on marriage certificate was Round Tower Street, Dover.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Round Tower Street, St Mary the Virgin, Dover, Kent, England


>>>John Hocking Head Married Male 54 1797 Cow Keeper Cornwall, England

Ellenor Hocking Wife Married Female 53 1798 - Cornwall, England

Mary Hocking Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Dover, Kent, England

Thomas Williams Lodger Unmarried Male 35 1816 Plasterer Not Known
James Knight Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1830 Plasterer Not Known
Charles Clark Lodger Unmarried Male 22 1829 Plasterer Not Known
John Hookham Lodger Married Male 40 1811 Plasterer Not Known
James Burnes Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1824 Labourer Not Known

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:07

Great - thanks Choccy.

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Feb 2015 22:08



Name:
Elizabeth Hocking


Marital Status:Single

Age:27

Birth Date:1821

Marriage Date:4 Oct 1848

Marriage Place:
St. Mary-The-Virgin Church, Dover, Kent, England

Father:John Hocking <<<<<<<<<<

Spouse:John Rutherford

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:09

Yeah, aged 10, I think he would be too little to be married. But I can't figure why he is a stepson when neither Elizabeth or John has been previously married.

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:11

What happened to your post Mike? It says !Report issue at the top and then there's a big gap until your message.

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Feb 2015 22:16

fat fingers I guess.

Sorry.
Have edited.

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Feb 2015 22:17

Could Son-in-Law mean a fostered child I wonder ?

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:19

ha ha. Yes possibly - again, wondered where he came from. He's only 10 but already employed?? as a mason and he doesn't seem to appear before or after that census.

Choccy

Choccy Report 24 Feb 2015 22:22

Free BMD

Births Mar 1842

Price William John Price Dover 5 126



Find My Past


England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription


First name(s) WILLIAM JOHN PRICE

Last name HOCKINGS

Birth year 1842

Birth quarter 1

District DOVER

County Kent

Country England

Volume 5
Page 126

Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
CategoryBirth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain




Choccy

Choccy Report 24 Feb 2015 22:25



Canterbury Baptisms

First name(s) William John Price

Last name Hocking

Birth year

Baptism year 1842

Baptism day 9

Baptism month Feb

Place Dover, St Mary the Virgin

Father's first name(s) -

Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth

County Kent

Archive reference U3/30/1/11

Year range 1838-1848

Record set Canterbury Baptisms

Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Record collection Births & baptisms

Collections from Great Britain

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:27

Ah. So that sounds like she had William John Price to someone else and John adopted him doesn't it?

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:29

In other words, she was a solo mother. Living on the farm with mum and dad, they probably accepted him and when Elizabeth went off and married John, William was part of the package deal.

Choccy

Choccy Report 24 Feb 2015 22:31



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Round Tower Street, St Mary the Virgin, Dover, Kent, England


John Hocking Head Married Male 64 1797 Shoemaker Looe, Cornwall, England

Elenor Hocking Wife Married Female 74 1787 - St Neots, Cornwall, England

Mary Rogers Daughter Married Female 25 1836 - Dover, Kent, England

>>>>>William Price Grandson Unmarried Male 19 1842 Shipwright Apprentice Dover, Kent, England

Edward Rogers Grandson - Male 4 1857 - Dover, Kent, England

Mary Rogers Granddaughter - Female 2 1859 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

Jiles Masten Lodger Unmarried Male 47 1814 Labourer Sussex, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Feb 2015 22:32


Name:
William John Peirce Hockings

Registration Year:
1842

Registration Quarter:
Jan-Feb-Mar

Registration district:
Dover

Inferred County:
Kent

Volume:
5

Page:
1*




Births Mar 1842
Hockings William John Peirce - Dover 5 1*
Hockings William John Price - Dover 5 126

Sue

Sue Report 24 Feb 2015 22:56

This is proving interesting. So young William moved back to his grandparents place which is why he seemed to disappear from my records.
Thank you both very much! This has been really interesting!

malyon

malyon Report 24 Feb 2015 23:20


William John Hocking
England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index
Name: William John Hocking
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1877
Registration District: Dover
County: Kent
Event Place: Dover, Kent, England
Volume: 2A
Page: 1306
Line Number: 321

William John Hocking probably married one of the following people
Name: Charles Chapman
Name: Afra Ann Collins
Name: Isabell Mary Thompson

Sue

Sue Report 25 Feb 2015 00:04

I hope it wasn't Charles Chapman - ha ha

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Feb 2015 00:33

Looks like William married Isabell because Afra Ann became Chapman



1901
Afra A Chapman (widow)

Age:60
Estimated birth year:abt 1841

Relation to Head:
Head

Birth Place:Dover, Kent, England

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