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This seems to be the birth that matches Mary Ross Philip in the above tree.
Name: Mary Cordiner
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1857
Birth Place: Tyrie,Aberdeen,Scotland
Mother: Helen Cordiner Or Philip
FHL Film Number: 6035516
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I've had a look at the above certificate and it reads
Mary Cordiner alias Philip, illegitimate, born 136 High Street, Tyrie.
Mother was Helen Cordiner then it says Helen Philip maiden name Cordiner (widow)
Helen Cordiner (mother) was present and registered the birth.
Whether this is Helen Cordiner or her mother Helen King, I don't know.
136 High Street is the same address as in the 1851 census which I posted.
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Other trees have this for Helen's husband, William. He was much older than Helen.
William Philip
Birth 01 Sep 1782 in King Edward, Aberdeen, Scotland
Death 06 Jul 1855 in New Pitsligo, Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland
and this for Helen.
Helen Cordiner
Birth Abt. 1815 in New deer, aberdeenshire
Death 09 Feb 1903 in New Pitsligo, Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland
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Thanks Alviegal..
Having a look at this just now..
Did see a death for Helen Philip nee Cordiner on sp in 1903, and can see her husband William was around 25 years older.. some age gap ;-) have spent nearly 2 hours looking for a marriage for them?? not on sp or Ancestry, even tried familysearch...
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Don't know if this is of any relevance. Probably not, as Nancy's William is listed as married to Helen in both 1851 and 1861.
But I'm so confused by all the foregoing posts that I thought I'd throw it into the pot just in case! :
Marriage per SP:
12/05/1851 PHILLIPS WILLIAM
MARY ROSS/FR8268 (FR8268) M ABERDEEN ABERDEEN CITY CITY/ABERDEEN 168/0A 0320 0104
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Elizabeth G's death:
1939 BEAN ELIZABETH GIBB Other surname: ROSS F 64 ABERDOUR (ABERDEEN) /ABERDEEN 169/00 0007
1939 ROSS ELIZABETH GIBB Other surname: BEAN F 64 ABERDOUR (ABERDEEN) /ABERDEEN 169/00 0007
Image says:
Elizabeth Gibb Bean, widow of George Bean, labourer.
Dies 10 May 1939, at 1.50pm, at 65 High Street, New Aberdour.
No father's name given (bother!)
Mother: Mary Ross, general servant, deceased.
Cause of death: Ulceration colitis
Informant: Mary Ann (or it might be Maryana) Milne, daughter, of Pennan Farm Cottage.
George & Elizabeth's marriage:
1897 BEAN GEORGE
ROSS LIZZIE GIBB NEW PITSLIGO /ABERDEEN 227/0B 0001
Elizabeth Bean in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Bean
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : George Bean
Gender: Female
Where born: New Pitsligo (tyrie), aberdeensh
Registration Number: 169
Registration district: Aberdour
Civil Parish: Aberdour
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 1 Elfin Str
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 34
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_63
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bean 29
Elizabeth Bean 25
Edward J Bean 6
George Bean 3
William Bean 2
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(to follow Death above)
Chris :)
11 May 1939 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death
Bean - At 65 High Street, New Aberdour, on 10th May, 1939, Elizabeth Wood, aged 64 years widow of George Bean. Funeral on Saturday 13th inst., at 1.30 p.m., to New Aberdour Churchyard. All friends respectfully invited.
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It looks like Robt came out in 1920 - his 25/7/1968 d.cert says he's been in Canada 49y.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04242.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04241.jpg
[His pob is given as Glasslaw (same as my gran) - it's in Aberdour psh, abt 5km NNW of New Pitsligo]
Evidently he returned to Scotland to fetch his wife and kid coming out again in 1921
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04239.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04240.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04105.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04106.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04179.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04180.jpg
[Now his pob is given as New Deer - the village is 9km S of New Pitsligo, but the psh is much closer - I don't know where the boundary is, but in 1841 my gg gran is a servant working a couple of kms SSW of New Pitsligo, but she's living in New Deer]
On both passages, Robt lists his closest rellie as his dad, Mr Mutch of Longside village/
Both times, Robt is bound for Pierson MB
Office Name: Pierson MB
Additional Information:
Private Building
Sec. 1, Twp. 3, R. 29, WPM - 1892-04-01, 1914-07-14
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/postal-heritage-philately/post-offices-postmasters/Pages/post-offices-postmasters.aspx
Township measures northing in 6 mile chunks, counting from the US border, so he's 13-18 m from the border (actually 13).
Range measures (usually) westing in 6 mile chunks, counting from the pevious meridian (here the 1st, or prime, meidian)
Actually, the MB-SK border is between R29 WPM and R30 WPM down south, so Pierson was 1-6 m E of the MB-SK border (6 m actually).
You know all meridians meet at the N Pole, so abt half way up SK, the 1st and 2nd meridians are no longer 6*29-174 m apart, so in the north the 2nd meridian (i.e., Long 102 deg W) forms the MB-SK border.
(In British terms, if I go to Jersey (approx Lat 49 deg N) and start at some point and place another point 1km away due E, then thru these two points draw meridians and follow them north, to Lat 60 deg N (it's abt 15 km S of Lerwick in Shetland), then the meridians are no longer 1000 m apart, but just 762 m.)
Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]
Nom: Robert Mutch
Sexe: Male (masculin)
Situation de famille: Married (Marié)
Âge: 25
Année de naissance: vers 1896
Lieu de naissance: Scotland (Écosse)
Lien de parenté avec le chef de famille: Head (Chef)
Conjoint(e): Jeanie Mutch
Lieu de naissance du père: Scotland (Écosse)
Lieu de naissance de la mère: Scotland (Écosse)
Année d’immigration: 1920
Origine raciale ou tribale: Scotch (Écossais)
Province ou territoire: Manitoba
District: Souris
Numéro de district: 36
Numéro du sous-district: 21
Ville, village ou municipalité: Village of Pierson Edward Municipality
Numéro de section: 1
Numéro du canton: 3
Numéro de rang: 29
Numéro de méridien: W1
Municipalité: Edward
Profession: Blacksmith
Revenus: 1200
Voisins: Afficher les autres personnes sur la page
Membres de la famille:
Nom Âge
Robert Mutch 25
Jeanie Mutch 25
Margaret Mutch 2
There's an 1890s map showing parishes of Aberdeenshire (or any Scottish county) at:
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/
I can go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and search for New Pitsligo.
It takes me to an URL and embedded in the URL are the OS coordinates of the arrow head, viz:
x=388500&y=855500 i.e., 388500,856500
These measure the easting and northing in metres fom a zero datum point 80 km WSW of Eddystone Rock (i.e., 140 km WSW of Lands End)
The newer Landranger coords are NJ 88500 55500 - both identify the same point.
Landranger admits using less accuracy by dropping the final pairs of digits, e.g., NJ 8850 5550 or NJ 885 555 or even NJ 88 55
So, for modern pics, I can try, e.g.,
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8855
There's a little compass rose tool thingy, so I can move 1 sq N and pick a pic, say:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1293404
There's some blurb in footer - a mini-map - the blue grid lines are 1km apart; and some info:
Subject Location NJ 882 561 [100m precision]
Photographer Location NJ 882 560
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