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Searching for Nance Meredith B.1858 Shropshire Father John Meredith
only reference I can find 1871 Census living with Grandmother Anne Meredith
Staffordshire Wolverhampton and marriage to Edward Amies 1879
regards Eileen

Wolverhampton Staffordshire is given as her place of birth in 1871 and after her marriage.

Here is her birth registration


Births Sep 1859 (>99%)

MEREDETH Nance Wolverhampton 6b 385

and this is her baptism

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County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Marks
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Aug 1859
Forename Nance
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname
MotherSurname MEREDITH
Abode Compton Road
FatherOccupation Servant
Notes Illegitimate
FileNumber 37078

Not seeing her before the 1871 census ..

This is her on the 1881 census. Hubby is a bit older than her

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Compton Road, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Edward Amies Head Married Male 40 1841 Carpenter & Joiner Stokesay, Shropshire, England Transcription
Nance Amies Wife Married Female 21 1860 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Benjamin Amies Son Single Male 14 1867 Scholar Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Samuel Amies Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Maria Amies Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Ruth Amies Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Clara Amies Daughter Single Female 2 1879 -- Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Transcription
Maude Amies Daughter Single Female 0 1881 -
So going on the chidrens birth years it looks like Edward was a widower on their marriage

This looks like her mother in 1851 aged 10. Her mother is working as a servant in Staffordshire. She gives Anns birthplace as Darlaston


Name:
Ann Meredith

Age:
38

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1813
Benjamin Hollins 40
Ann Meredith 38
>>>>> Ann Meredith 10
William Kollinson 63
John Glover 23
Thomas Black 30
Sarah Underwood 28
Mary Underwood 24

According to a public tree on ancestry Edward died in Australia so looks like the family emigrated

Edward Amies

Birth: 1st Aug 1840 (1 Aug 1840) - Shropshire, England
Death: 1929 - Epping, NSW (New South Wales), Australia
Marriage: Jun 1878 - Wolverhampton
Spouse: Nance Meredith

Not seeing them after the 1881 census in the UK

Shipping records start 1890 but not seeing them so must have gone in the 1880,s

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Name: Nance Amies
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1930
Subdistrict: Epping
State: New South Wales
District: Parramatta
Country: Australia

Listed with a Nellie Amies. Home duties

Still at the same address 4 Grandview Parade

Name: Nance Amies
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1937
Subdistrict: Epping
State: New South Wales
District: Parramatta
Country: Australia
With Nellie Amies

If you put her name in on ancestry as nance Amies there are pictures of her and Edward. And the tree States she died in 1937 so ties with her being on the electoral roll,to 1936

Nance lists her father as John on her death registration but I'm thinking 'John' was her grandfather?

Her mother is Ann, no father named on Nance baptism which indicates she is born out of marriage

Then there is this, possible/strange marriage for her mother!


Name:Ann Meredith

Gender:Female

Age:26

Birth Date:1841

Marriage Date:21 Jan 1867

Marriage Place:Wolverhampton, Stafford, England

Father:John Meredith

Spouse: Edward Amies

Do you think Nance married her step father?


1871

Name:Ann Ormies

Age:30

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Edward Ormies

Gender:Female

Where born:Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish:Wolverhampton

Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark

Town:Wolverhampton

County/Island:Staffordshire

Country:England

Registration district:Wolverhampton

Sub-registration district:Wolverhampton Western

ED, institution, or vessel:22
Household schedule number:67
Piece:2933
Folio:88
Page Number:10


Edward Ormies 30 <<Carpenter
Ann Ormies 30 <<Nance mother?
Benjamin Ormies 4
Samuel Ormies 1
Maria Ormies 5 Months


Looks like her mother died and Nance DID marry her step father



Deaths Dec 1877

Amies Ann 37 Wolverhampton 6b 348

There are baptism records for the children (listed on 1881 census above) all show Edward as the father and Ann as the mother

Gins!! Think you have it!!

This is the marriage of her Mum, Ann, that you put up earlier but with a note: Carpenter of Compton Road

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (FMP)
First name(s) Ann
Last name Meredith
Name note carpenter, of Compton Road
Age 26
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 21 Jan 1867
Marriage place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Meredith
Spouse's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's last name Amies
Spouse's father's first name(s) Jeremiah
Spouse's father's last name Amies
Residence Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Place Wolverhampton
County Staffordshire

So Clara and Maud are the children of Edward and Nance- the other children listed on the 1881 are the children of Edward and Ann.....making them Nance's half siblings! :-S

Awkward!

I can't see Nance on the 1861 census?

Her mum on the 1861

Name: Ann Meridith
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Race Course

Occupation:domestic servant

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 1990
Folio: 83
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Crowe 27
Louisa Crowe 21
J Madeline Castor 16
Elizebeth Brown 44
Ann Meridith 20

New South Wales Deaths 1788-1945 Transcription
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First name(s) Edward
Last name Amies
Birth year -
Death year 1929
Registration year 1929
Age at death -
Registration district Ryde
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) Jeremiah
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Registration number 17504



New South Wales Deaths 1788-1945 Transcription
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First name(s) Nance
Last name Amies
Birth year -
Death year 1937
Registration year 1937
Age at death -
Registration district Ryde
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) John




New South Wales Will Books 1800-1952 Transcription

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First name(s) Nance
Last name Amies
Death year 1937
Death date 08 Sep 1937
Occupation Widow
Residence Epping NSW
Instrument Will
Will number 225272
Record set New South Wales Will Books 1800-1952
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Wills & probate


of Grandview Parade. She appointed William Amies of West Ryde to be Executor and Trustee. Equal shares were to be divided between Mrs C Woodlands of Stanmore, Mrs Mead of Bankstown Edward Amies of Parramatta and Ellen Amies of Epping.
Estate was sworn at £382 6s 9d nett.

Name: Elizabeth Amies
Birth Date: 1884
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Canterbury, New South Wales
Registration Number: 5861



New South Wales Births Transcription
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First name(s) Edward
Last name Amies
Birth year 1887
Registration year 1887
Denomination -
Registration district Liverpool
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Father's first name(s) Edward
Mother's first name(s) Nance
Registration number 19889



Name: Jessie Amies
Birth Date: 1888
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Granville, New South Wales
Registration Number: 19982


Name: Ernest Amies
Birth Date: 1891
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Place: Liverpool, New South Wales
Registration Number: 20019



Name: Grace Amies
Birth Date: 1898
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Place: Smithfield, New South Wales
Registration Number: 34755
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Name: Elsie Amies
Birth Date: 1902
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Place: Smithfield, New South Wales
Registration Number: 16805


Name: Albert A Amies
Birth Date: 1905
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nance
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Smithfield, New South Wales
Registration Number: 7985



Name: William Amies
Birth Date: 1890
Father's name: Edward Amies
Mother's name: Nancy
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Place: Liverpool, New South Wales
Registration Number: 19744
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DEATHS

Name: Jessie Amies
Death Date: 1914
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Edward
Mother's name: Nance
Registration Year: 1914
Registration Place: Moss Vale, New South Wales
Registration Number: 1531


Name: Elsie V M Amies
Death Date: 1929
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Edward
Mother's name: Nance
Registration Year: 1929
Registration Place: Bankstown, New South Wales
Registration Number: 16155
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Name: William Amies
Death Date: 1942
Death Place: New South Wales
Father's name: Edward
Mother's name: Nance
Registration Year: 1942
Registration Place: Ryde, New South Wales
Registration Number: 13300
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Dear Gins ..,

Please would you give me access to view your tree?

Best Regards,

Eileen

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Hi

Please post on this thread Eileen


So, Nance has not been found in 1861?

Nance Meredith, was Edward Amies second WIFE his first Wife died 1877 mother to
Benjamin, Samuel, Mariah, Ruth, David, B1875 D 1876. First Wife Mary Ann Richards M. 1840 Darliston England.
Eileen

Dear Gins,
Thank you for info, all looks a bit confusingDid you get this from Ancestry.com, I only use Genes Reunited I can't afford Ancestry..
Regards Eileen