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28 Mar 2015 04:20 |
From that same site:
http://www.southronaldsay.net/cdr/1857-lconrad.html#1857_11-33
Death of Jane Gray nee Peake:
1868- Page 4 #10 --Jane Sophia (PEAKE) Gray--[Roeberry/age 78] -- Widow of Malcolm GRAY --
parents: William PEAKE/{mother's name not given in record} -- Informant: 'Jno.' GRAY, Son.
[listed as a Deceased Parent: William PEAKE]
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28 Mar 2015 04:17 |
This confirms James Gray and Ann Scollay as the parents of Malcolm Gray senior:
Death:
1857- Page 11 #33 --Malcolm GRAY--['Roberry'/age 74] -- Married - {spouse's name not given in record} --
parents: James GRAY/'Anne' SCOLLAY -- Informant: James CROMARTY, Nephew.
[listed as Deceased Parents: James GRAY, 'Anne' SCOLLAY]
from:
http://www.southronaldsay.net/cdr/1857-lconrad.html#1857_11-33
'South Ronaldsay and Burray Civil Death Registers: Extracted Index' © L. Conrad, 2001-2015. /Site launched 10 Sep. 2001; last site update 1 Jan. 2015
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28 Mar 2015 04:02 |
Marriage of Malcolm Gray and Jane Peake:
Name: Malcolm Gray Spouse: Jane Peake Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Apr 1819 Parish: St Mary, Newington Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register Cancel
LMA image on Ancestry says: Malcolm Gray of South Ronaldshay in North Britain bachelor and Jane Peake of this parish spinster, married by licence . Witnesses W Williams and S Mason.
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28 Mar 2015 03:52 |
Purely speculative as to the origin of the middles name Scholay on the baptism:
Marriage: Name: James Gray Spouse's Name: Anne Scollay Event Date: 03 Jul 1777 Event Place: Kirkwall And St Ola,Orkney,Scotland Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11021-2 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 0990503, 0990504
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28 Mar 2015 03:27 |
Birthdate is slightly out with that given on the merchant seaman's record:
Name: Malcolm Scholay Gray Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 Aug 1823 Christening Place: SOUTH RONALDSAY,ORKNEY,SCOTLAND Birth Date: 02 Aug 1823 Father's Name: Malcolm Gray Mother's Name: Jane Peake Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11029-4 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 990513
EDIT: Several baptisms of children of Malcolm Gray and Jane Peake/Jane Sophia Peake on South Ronaldsay 1821-1830 ish
Census 1841:
Name: Malcolm Gray Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Where born: Orkney and Shetland, Scotland Civil Parish: South Ronaldsay St Peters County: Orkney and Shetland Address: Robery Hoxay Occupation: Farmer Parish Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age Malcolm Gray 55 Jane Gray 50 John Gray 15 Elizabeth Gray 10 James Sandison 20 James Rossie 20 Ann Sinclair 20 David Dennet 10
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28 Mar 2015 02:57 |
????
Is this the death of Annie, who was 39 in the 1911 census GB posted?
Deaths Sep 1925 Gray Annie 54 Poplar 1c 349
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28 Mar 2015 00:00 |
Just for interest:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shipkeeper
Definition of SHIPKEEPER
1: a watchman in charge of a ship in the absence of officers and crew
2: the one left in charge of a whaling ship when the captain's boat is lowered
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27 Mar 2015 23:39 |
Baptism for little Malcolm Gray in GB's 1871 census?
Name: Malcolm Gray Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1871 Father's name: Malcolm Gray Mother's name: Phoebe Gray Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End Old Town Holy Trinity Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Born Jan 1st 1869.Father a ship keeper. Address 6, Windsor Terrace
On the 1871 Census GB posted for Phoebe, William and little Malcolm, Phoebe is described as a ship keeper's wife, and the address is 6 Windsor Terrace
Died young?
Deaths Dec 1876 Gray Malcolm 7 Mile End 1c 367
Can't find baptism for William
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27 Mar 2015 23:19 |
Apologies if this has been posted before, ties in with GB's 1881 census of the Malcolm married to Phoebe:
Merchant Seamen Transcription
First name(s) MALCOLM Last name Gray Age - Birth year 1823 Birth day 21 Birth month 08 Birth place South Ronaldsey Birth county Orkney Place SOUTH RONALDSEY Discharge number - Identity certificate number - Card type - Date range 1845-1854 Series BT113 Piece number 3 Record set Merchant Navy Seamen Category Education & work Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime Collections from Great Britain
5ft 11 in Brown hair, Blue eyes, Fresh complexion. marks: man & woman on right arm.
First went to sea as apprentice in 1830. (so young!!!!)
When unemployed resides at Shadwell.
Age when ticketed: 22. Age in 1845: 22 Can write: yes.
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27 Mar 2015 06:04 |
Thank you all once again for your help. As I said, I'm a novice to this , but knowing there are kind people out there willing to spare some time to help is just brilliant. I'll crack on my research and see where the results you've come up with take me. My mum has asked me to pass on her thanks to you too. Her surname is spelt incorrectly on her birth certificate and she was an only child, so I'm just glad she's still with us and I'm aware of her correct birth name or the whole project would be impossible! Thank you once again to Glitterbaby and Yvonne :-)
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26 Mar 2015 22:13 |
hi this is the only death record i can find for malcolm that might match he's birth year
Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%) GRAY Malcolm 68 Dartford 2a 271
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26 Mar 2015 22:11 |
1911 poss
Name: William Gray Age in 1911: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Poplar, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 6 Martindale Road, Custom House, West Ham Marital Status: Married Occupation: Dock Labourer Registration district: West Ham Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration district: Canning Town ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 85 Piece: 9484 Household Members: Name Age William Gray 43 Annie Gray 39 Alice Gray 2 Walter Challes 42 - lodger
Says married 4 years and one child born and still alive
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26 Mar 2015 21:55 |
1881 ??
Name: Malcolm Gray Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Phoebe Gray Gender: Male Where born: South Rolinsea, Orkney, Scotland Civil Parish: Limehouse County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 3 Turners Rd Carpenters Shop Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Shipkeeper (Out Of Employ) Registration district: Stepney Sub registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 470 Folio: 20 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Malcolm Gray 59 Phoebe Gray 48 William Gray 14 born Poplar
1871 Name: Phoebe Gray Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Middle Aston, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 79 Piece: 562 Folio: 7 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Phoebe Gray 39 William Gray 3 Malcolm Gray 2
1901 ? Name: Phoebe Gray Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Limehouse Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 322 Folio: 90 Page Number: 20 Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Phoebe Gray 65 William Gray 34 born Poplar
William listed as single and a dock labourer
1891 Phoebe is a widow lodging with Johnston family in Limehouse
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26 Mar 2015 21:49 |
Oh bother I can find 6 baptisms in the name of Daniel and Mary but not one for William
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26 Mar 2015 21:40 |
Just looking at anything at the moment
1911 52 Wycliffe Road Winton, Bournemouth
Daniel Malcolm Gray Head Married Male 75 1836 Old Brompton Kent Retired Restaurant Keeper Mary Ann Gray Wife Married Female 65 1846 London Whitechapel - Kitty Palmer Visitor Single Female 25 1886 Basenstoke Hants Dress Maker Manyla Bravsel Visitor Married Female 33 1878 France Visitor None
Think this one married in 1905 to Mary Ann Crouch
No idea if relevant or not First name(s) Daniel Malcolm Last name Gray Gender Male Birth year 1868 Birth place - Baptism year 1868 Baptism date 12 Aug 1868 Place Stepney County London Country England Father's first name(s) Daniel . Father's last name Gray Mother's first name(s) Mary Louisa Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Name: Louisa Mary Gray Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1865 Father's name: Daniel Malcolm Gray - mariner Mother's name: Mary Louisa Gray Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary Stratford Bow Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
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26 Mar 2015 21:39 |
Thank you all so much! Your help is very much appreciated. Mum was so pleased to find out who her maternal grandparents were, especially when she found out she was named after her Nan, that she got quite emotional. Makes all the hard work worthwhile :-). Hopefully thanks to your help I can fill in some more blanks for her xx
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26 Mar 2015 21:37 |
Wonder if this is the father of Daniel given the year of birth
First name(s) Daniel Malcolm Last name Gray Relationship - Marital status Married Gender Male Age 50 Birth year 1811 Occupation Shipkeeper Birth town - Birth town as transcribed SOUTH RONALDSHAY Birth county - Birth county as transcribed - Birth place other as transcribed - Street - Parish - City or borough - County British Ships in Home Ports Country Ships and Overseas Establishments Vessel name Wellington Municipal ward - Parliamentary borough - Registration district British Ships in Home Ports Enumeration district - Piece number 4472 Folio number 17 Page number 1 Family member last name GRAY Family member first name(s) DANIEL Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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0805hels
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26 Mar 2015 21:36 |
Yvonne , yes, that's the naval record that seems to relate to him
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26 Mar 2015 21:35 |
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Name: Daniel Malcolm Gray - mariner Spouse: Mary Louisa Crouch Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Jul 1864 Parish: West Hackney Borough: Hackney Father Name: Daniel Charles Malcolm Gray - mariner Spouse Father: Joseph Crouch Register Type: Parish Register
Both shown as full age
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26 Mar 2015 21:35 |
Glitterbaby - labourer..... Hate to think what that was in reality because mum says she just remembers himas being paralysed down one side!
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