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21 Apr 2015 23:54 |
One of the witnesses on the codicil to Harriet Atkinson's will, was one Juliet Susannah Atkinson.
I think she was the wife/widow of Thomas & Harriet's son Septimus Edward Atkinson.
Looks like they married in India:
First name(s) Septimus Edward Last name Atkin Marriage year 1828 Marriage date 27 Dec 1828 Spouse's first name Juliet Susannah Spouse's last name Walters Place - Presidency Bengal Groom's age 21 Bride's age 23 Groom's father's first name - Groom's father's last name - Bride's father's first name - Bride's father's last name - Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Archive reference N-1-21 Folio number 177 Entry number - Record set British India Office marriages
On the image of the marrige register, the name Septimus Edward Atkin fills one line, and 'son' is on the next line, Calcutta, gentleman. Juliet is also of Calcutta, a spinster.
They lost at least one child there:
Name: Harriett Julia Atkinson<<<<<<<<<<<< Gender: Female Burial Date: 15 Feb 1830 Burial Place: Calcutta, Bengal, India Age: 0 Birth Date: 1830 Occupation: Infant Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Septimus Edward Atkinson<<<<<<< Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B39594-9 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number:
The image says she died aged 2month, and her father Septimus was a Volunteer H. C.Marine.
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22 Apr 2015 00:30 |
I suspect this is Juliet in census 1841, with possibly some of her Walters siblings/kin:
No sign of any surviving Atkinson children from her marriage:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Crediton, Devon, England
Samuel Backwell Male 40 1801 Devon, England Anne Backwell Female 35 1806 Devon, England Ellen Backwell Female 14 1827 Devon, England Jane Lake Female 18 1823 Devon, England Richard Whidborne Male 61 1780 Devon, England Jane Whidborne Female 60 1781 Devon, England Jane Yarde Female 35 1806 Devon, England Jane Yarde Female 7 1834 Devon, England Fanny Badcock Female 50 1791 Devon, England George Walters Male 31 1810 - Susannah Walters Female 21 1820 - Juliet Atkinson Female 35 1806<<<<< Emily Walters Female 23 1818
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22 Apr 2015 01:54 |
????
This is EXTREMELY speculative based on Harriet Jones marrying in Barking, and being born c1772 if her age at death was correct.
Walthamstow and Barking are fairly close.
Name: Harriott Jones Gender: Female Christening Date: 17 Mar 1772 Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England Father's Name: James Jones Mother's Name: Ann Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 5 ,
We know Harriet had a sister named Ann, who had a James Jones as a witness at her marriage in 1799. However Ann was of the parish of Chislehurst at the time:
Name: Ann Jones Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 Jul 1767 Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England Father's Name: James Jones Mother's Name: Ann Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 4
Other births:
Name: Matilda Jones Event Type: Christening Event Date: 11 Mar 1775 Event Place: Barking, Essex, England Gender: Female Father's Name: James Jones Mother's Name: Ann GS Film Number: 1471843 , Digital Folder Number: 004047856 , Image Number: 00300
Name: Henry Salkeld Jones Event Type: Christening Event Date: 01 Jul 1773 Event Place: Barking, Essex, England Gender: Male Father's Name: James Jones Mother's Name: Ann GS Film Number: 1471843 , Digital Folder Number: 004047856 , Image Number: 00296
Name: Sarah Jones Gender: Female Christening Date: 09 Feb 1769 Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England Father's Name: James Jones Mother's Name: Ann Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 5
It looks like the baptisms start out at Walthamstow, then move to Barking if looked at chronologically.
BUT, Jones is so common a name, and, as Jacqueline said earlier, Essex is not the easiest county to work with where records are concerned, so this might be a complete red herring, and I can't see a way at the moment to substantiate it.
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22 Apr 2015 06:42 |
(saw below)
Death Announcements 1832-1844
Surname Atkinson First names Septimus Edward Unit Bengal Marines Death date 27 May 1833 Place of death East Indies Detail Septimus Edward Atkinson, Bengal Marines, youngest son of late Thomas Atkinson, esq. http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/
(above also on google search)
Name: Septimus Edward ATKINSON Marriage Start date: 27 Dec Start year: 1828 Location: Calcutta Cath. Spouse: Juliet Susannah WALTERS Status: 21. Gent. Transcribed by: British Library India Office Records Reference: N/1/21 f.177 Presidency: Bengal
http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/Advancediscovery.aspx
Chris :)
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx
(above for Essex Parishes, subscription needed)
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22 Apr 2015 08:52 |
Oh WOW Thank you everyone So much information to read through - I am feeling very overwhelmed
Maddie - I'd seen the ancestry tree, but as it has quite a few proven errors on a couple of generations I can't trust any of it, but thanks.
Safe, Jacqueline, Kucinta and Chris Ho - thank you so much, it will probably take me a week to read through it all
Have a great week everyone <3
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22 Apr 2015 15:32 |
HI,
Will send copy of the will of James Atkinson merchant, to you at the email address you gave me to send Harriet's will.
Harriet did mention James' will at the beginning of hers.
James is a merchant, mentions sons James, Stephen and THOMAS, and leaves various bequests to "Harriet the wife of my son Thomas". Quite a long will, and the writing is very closely written, so hope you have plenty of spare time!
Name: James Atkinson Esquire Probate Date: 23 Aug 1809 Residence: London
EDIT: Burial record for James:
Name: James Atkinson Burial Date: 14 Apr 1809 Parish: St Sepulchre, Holborn County: London Borough: City of London Record Type: Burial Register Type: Parish Register
Looks like he was buried in the 'Great Vault', and his address was given as Bedford Row. Aged 80 years, so gives you some idea of birthdate.
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22 Apr 2015 16:54 |
Found this transcription for the will of Stephen Atkinson (brother to Thomas Atkinson, uncle to James Atkinson c1800)
I believe the '1918' is a mistranscription and should be 1818. In harriet's will Stephen is mentioned as formerly of Scriven with Tentergate Knaresbrough:
http://www.harrogatepeopleandplaces.info/wills/aa/052.htm
Stephen Atkinson - 11th October 1918 - AA052
Scriven with Tentergate, but now of Colney Hatch, Middlesex, Esquire
To my niece Ann Atkinson, daughter of my brother James Atkinson, £1,000.
To John Fairbank, son of Francis Fairbank of Knaresborough, Attorney at Law, £500.
To my relation James Hayhurst, son of James Hayhurst, deceased, late of Long Acre, £500.
To James Sermitte, son of my executor Thomas Sermitte, £500.
To my servant Rachel Winter, £500.
To my executor, Thomas Sermitte, of Aldgate, London, and of Colney Hatch, Merchant, £500 Upon Trust to invest in public funds. Any change to be authorised by Harriette Atkinson, wife of Thomas Atkinson the son of my brother James Atkinson. The profit to be disbursed as directed by Harriette.
All my freehold estate in Scriven with Tentergate, Knaresborough, and Youlton, and the residue of my personal estate and effects to Thomas Sermitte.
Witnesses : George Ries Williams, Clerk to Messrs Exley Stoker & Dawson, Furnivals Inn, James Perkins of Colney Hatch
Inrolled 3rd January 1821
Edit: have now found a scan of the will which I will send.
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22 Apr 2015 18:16 |
Not sure if this is connected to the 'James Hayhurst' mentioned in Stephen's will trancripts above:
Name: James Hayhurst Spouse: Rebecca Atkinson Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Dec 1785 Parish: Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, Spitalfields Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Register
One witness is a Jane Atkinson. James is described as a bachelor of ST Giles in the Fields, Rebecca a spinster otp. Married by licence.
Might be a complete red herring. However 'Long Acre' (mentioned as James' abode in Stephen's will) is an area in Westminster and I found the birth of two daughters, Jane and Jemima, to the couple in the Westminster area..
Name: Jane Hayhurst Gender: Female Christening Date: 17 Aug 1787 Christening Place: SAINT CLEMENT DANES,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND Birth Date: 24 Jul 1787 Father's Name: James Hayhurst Mother's Name: Rebecca Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04160-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 574266, 574267 ,
Name: Jemima Hayhurst Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Apr 1789 Christening Place: SAINT CLEMENT DANES,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND Birth Date: 13 Apr 1789 Father's Name: James Hayhurst Mother's Name: Rebecca Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04160-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 574266, 574267
Howver 'Long Acre' might also be a rural location relating to Stephen's life in Scriven with Tenterhook.
Edit: This James died 1815:
Name: James Hayhurst Probate Date: 3 Jun 1815 Residence: St Giles in the Fields, Middlesex, England
Will mentions wife Rebecca, but I'm struggling to read it, it does say he has a son named James Hayhurst though, who is probably the recipient of the £500 bequest from Stephen Atkinson.
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