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24 Apr 2015 19:50 |
Hi researching Frederick Mortimer born in 1873 died in 1946. He married Amy Fortune. They came from Broughton Gifford near Bradford on Avon. I was trying find out who his father was. Any information would be helpful. Thanks Jane
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malyon
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24 Apr 2015 20:06 |
Frederick Mortimer England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Frederick Mortimer Age (Original): 8 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1873 Birthplace: Bradford, Wiltshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Son Marital Status: Single Occupation: Scholar Address: Lower Village Event Place: Bradford On Avon, Wiltshire, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 2051 / 93 Page Number: 9 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace William Mortimer Head M 50 Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Eliza Mortimer Wife F 51 Atworth, Wiltshire, England Tom Mortimer Son M 17 Holt, Wiltshire, England John Mortimer Son M 10 Bradford, Wiltshire, England Frederick Mortimer Son M 8 Bradford, Wiltshire, England
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24 Apr 2015 20:08 |
Many thanks I think that could be right. Will research further.
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24 Apr 2015 20:18 |
I am not sure that is the correct one
I assume this is yours in 1901 Name: Frederick J Mortimer Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Registration District: Bristol Gender: Male Age: 28 Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Date: 1873 Birthplace: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire
There is a different one in 1901 Name: Frederick Mortimer Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Registration District: Portsmouth Gender: Male Age: 28 Birth Date: 1873 Birthplace: Bradford, Wiltshire
I think that is the one one the 1881 census above
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24 Apr 2015 20:20 |
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Name: Thomas Mortimer Age: 27 [37] corrected age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Maria Mortimer Gender: Male Where born: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Broughton Gifford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: The Common Marital Status: Married Education:
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View image Occupation: Quarry Labourer Registration district: Bradford On Avon Sub registration district: Bradford South Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2049 Folio: 15 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Mortimer 27 [37] Maria Mortimer 25 [35] Fanny Mortimer 12 Frederick Mortimer 9 Rosa Mortimer 6 Lily Mortimer 2
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malyon
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24 Apr 2015 20:21 |
hi cant find a marriage for amy fortune to frederick only one i can see is for a amy heyward
Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%) Mortimer Frederick amy Heywood Pancras 1b 172
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24 Apr 2015 20:22 |
1891 Name: Thomas Mitchiner [Thomas Mortimer] Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Malie Mitchiner Gender: Male Where born: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Broughton Gifford Ecclesiastical parish: Broughton Gifford Town: Broughton Gifford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Bradford On Avon ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1605 Folio: 13 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Mitchiner 46 Malie Mitchiner 44 Fanny Mitchiner 21 Frederick Mitchiner 18 Lily Mitchiner 12 Violet Mitchiner 1 John Poultom 18
They are all Mortimer on the imagenot Michiner
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24 Apr 2015 20:26 |
1901 but not married to Amy
Name: Frederick J Mortimer Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Elizabeth Mortimer Birth Place: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Bristol Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2393 Folio: 26 Page Number: 13 Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Name Age Frederick J Mortimer 28 Elizabeth Mortimer 25 Lily Rose Mortimer 7 Elizabeth M Mortimer 5 Thomas F Mortimer 3 Reginald Mortimer 10/12 Elizabeth Derrick 67 Arthur Derrick 25 Ada Annie Derrick 3 Save Cancel
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24 Apr 2015 20:31 |
Is this the marriage you mentioned
Name: Frances Amy Fortune Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Chippenham Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 5a Page: 114 Records on Page: Name Frances Amy Fortune Harriet Matilda Hart Fred Mortimer Walter Charles Smith
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Catherine
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24 Apr 2015 20:32 |
The marriage ?
Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%) xxxxx Fortune Frances Amy Chippenham 5a 114 Hart Harriet Matilda Chippenham 5a 114 xxxxx MORTIMER Fred Chippenham 5a 114 SMITH Walter Charles Chippenham 5a 114
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Catherine
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24 Apr 2015 20:34 |
Is this the couple?
Name: Fred Mortimer Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Amy Mortimer Birth Place: Chippenham Civil Parish: Chippenham Ecclesiastical parish: Chippenham St Andrew Town: Chippenham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Milk Factory Hand Registration district: Chippenham Sub-registration district: Chippenham ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1919 Folio: 50 Page Number: 33 Household schedule number: 201 Household Members: Name Age Fred Mortimer 32 Amy Mortimer 28
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24 Apr 2015 20:35 |
1901 census for that couple
Name: Fred Mortimer Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Amy Mortimer Birth Place: Chippenham Civil Parish: Chippenham Ecclesiastical parish: Chippenham St Andrew Town: Chippenham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Chippenham Sub-registration district: Chippenham ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1919 Folio: 50 Page Number: 33 Household schedule number: 201 Household Members: Name Age Fred Mortimer 32 Amy Mortimer 28 born Chippenham
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Catherine
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24 Apr 2015 20:37 |
Name: Fred Mortimer Age in 1911: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Chippenham Within County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Lowden, Chippenham, Wilts Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration district: Chippenham Registration District Number: 243 Sub-registration district: Chippenham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 11877 Household Members: Name Age Fred Mortimer 42 Frances Amy Mortimer 38 Frederick James Mortimer 9 Dorothy Emily Mortimer 7 Kathleen Mortimer 5
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Catherine
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24 Apr 2015 20:47 |
the Frederick Mortimer who was born in 1873 an died in 1946:-
Name: Frederick J Mortimer Birth Date: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Mar 1946 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Trowbridge Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 5a Page: 178
Looks to have married:-
Name: Frederick Joseph Mortimer Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Date: 1872 Marriage Date: 13 Aug 1892 Marriage Place: Saint James,Trowbridge,Wiltshire,England Father: Thomas Mortimer
Spouse: Elizabeth Derrick
FHL Film Number: 1279314
..............not Amy Fortune, so which one is the one you are looking for?
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oldschoolboy
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24 Apr 2015 20:48 |
Thanks yes Frederick Mortimer born 1873 was married to Francis Amy fortune born in 1873. That is the couple. Many thanks
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24 Apr 2015 20:57 |
The Fred Mortimer who married Amy was not born in 1873
Here he is with his family in 1891
Name: James Mortimer Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily J Mortimer Gender: Male Where born: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Chippenham Ecclesiastical parish: Chippenham Town: Chippenham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Chippenham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1593 Folio: 90 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age James Mortimer 59 Emily J Mortimer 35 Fred Mortimer 22 born Chippenham, Anne M Mortimer 18 Kate Mortimer 15 Henry J Mortimer 11 Florence M Mortimer 9 Save
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24 Apr 2015 21:02 |
But that's just it, the Frederick Mortimer that was born in 1873, wasn't married to Francis Amy Fortune.
The person who married Francis Amy Fortune was:-
Fred Mortimer born 1869 in Chippenham, Wiltshire.
The Frederick Mortimer who was born in 1873, Broughton Gifford was married to Elizabeth Derrick and his full name was Frederick Joseph Mortimer.
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24 Apr 2015 21:03 |
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Name: James Mortimore Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Emily I. Mortimore Gender: Male Where born: Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Chippenham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Westmead Lane Patchetts Slip Marital Status: Married Education:
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View image Occupation: Weaver Woollen Factory (Clth) Registration district: Chippenham Sub registration district: Chippenham ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2033 Folio: 4 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age James Mortimore 49 Emily I. Mortimore 45 Emily E. Mortimore 22 Lucy Mortimore 19 Alice Mortimore 14 Fred Mortimore 12 borm Chippenham, Wiltshire, Frank Mortimore 10 Annie M. Mortimore 8 Kate Mortimore 5 Winefred J. Mortimore 3 Henry J. Mortimore 1
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oldschoolboy
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24 Apr 2015 21:12 |
Oh i I will have to redo some of my work and get back to you. Thanks
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Apr 2015 21:13 |
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(above could be useful perhaps)
Chris :)
edits (from above, with Mother Maiden Name)
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1902
MORTIMORE Frederick J Chippenham History Centre FORTUNE CHIP/33/332
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years 1903
MORTIMER Dorothy E Chippenham History Centre FORTUNE CHIP/34/203
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1905
MORTIMER Kathleen Chippenham History Centre FORTUNE CHIP/35/258
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
MORTIMER James CHAPMAN Emily J Broughton Gifford St. Mary's History Centre C5/1/110
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
MORTIMER Fred Chippenham History Centre CHAPMAN CHIP/17/241
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
FORTUNE Frances A MORTIMER Fred Chippenham, St Andrew's History Centre C15/3/224
Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
FORTUNE Frances A Chippenham History Centre (Mother Maiden Name) TOWNSEND CHIP/19/251
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